Captain Blut Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I have been hard at work trying to come up with a suitable name and heraldry for my new chapter of codex space marines. I worked out the color scheme, which I will get around to posting a model or two, but I can not settle on a name or insignia. All I can really come up with is "Iron Wardens" and "Revenant Spectres" but neither really works for me. I'd appreciate a little help and inspiration. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 If you could provide some insights into the spirit of the chapter, as well as the colourscheme, it'd be much easier to help ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3506528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 If you could provide some insights into the spirit of the chapter, as well as the colourscheme, it'd be much easier to help quoted for truth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3506542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Progenitor Chapter would be helpful as well. Any Chapter history or background on preferred tactics and doctrine too please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3506584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Eight Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Iron specters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3506610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blut Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 Here is the SMP img for the color scheme http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab4/Razoryeer/Space%20Marine%20Project/spacemarine9-1.jpg There seems to be a distinct Imperial Roman feel to the models I converted into sternguard, so I am leaning in that direction for the chapter theme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3510757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blut Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 I am going with either Imperial Fists or Iron Hands as progenitors. I want a shooty play style and like sternguard and devastator squads. I'll be uploading pictures of some of the converted sternguard soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3510761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Personally, I think the colour scheme is a little busy. I suggest that you should try and settle on one or two colours for the scheme so you don't start hating yourself when it comes to paint. As far as the symbols are concerned, if you're going for Imperial Roman, why not try some combination of lightning, wreath, sword, etc. or use one of the symbols commonly seen on the shields of Roman Legionnaires? Y'know, the lightning coming from the shield boss kind of thing. And the Chapter name really depends on which Chapter you end up going with - the Fists' successors go along the lines of 'Iron Knights', 'Hammers of Dorn', 'Crimson Fists', 'Black Templars',etc. - all very knightly, fist or weapons-based. Whilst the Hands' named successors are based off mechanics, metals, hands/arms, etc. No name ideas off the top of my head, but there's something to help you think :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3510844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Personally, I think the colour scheme is a little busy. I suggest that you should try and settle on one or two colours for the scheme so you don't start hating yourself when it comes to paint. QFT. I'd advocate simplifying that colour scheme (or starting again with the basic colours featured in the first attempt). As for a name, either you have a solid idea for one now or you should wait until you know (roughly) how this chapter thinks and fights. Knowing where their gene-seed comes from would be a good starting point, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3510901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Colour scheme is interesting, kinda reminds me of the Iron Lords scheme (guess it's the black body, red legs). Maybe make them IH Successors via the Lords? Iron Wardens as a name could certainly work in that case? Edit: Or just go with an Iron Lords army, they're pretty darn close to what you want? Edit 2: Or if you do want some white in there how about something like... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3510936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperhavens Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 When you had the white fists I thought you could follow up the idea of your chapter being an Imperial Fist successor called the ''Ivory Fists'' that way you can use the widely available IF bits and what not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3510957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspecti Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Maybe paint the fists black like the arms and use a single white fist to indicate veteran status and white helmet stripe for veteran sergeants? As for chapter symbol, maybe a fist grabbing a lightning bolt or two and call them The Olympians. Check some wiki entries on Roman/Greek mythology for name ideas :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3510972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blut Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Converted Sternguard (made from leftover bits of two sternguard boxes). http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab4/Razoryeer/Space%20Marine%20Project/IMG_0498.jpg Rough paint job of one of the marines http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab4/Razoryeer/Space%20Marine%20Project/IMG_0500.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3511061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Just tossing this out there- but you could combine imperial/crimson fist stuff with a greco-roman theme and call them something like the Imperial Hoplites. Really the only chapter that has a greco-roman theme is the minotaurs so far; and I'd imagine other chapters have recruited from aristotilian style planets in the past. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3511147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khakisuperbunny Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Just tossing this out there- but you could combine imperial/crimson fist stuff with a greco-roman theme and call them something like the Imperial Hoplites. Really the only chapter that has a greco-roman theme is the minotaurs so far; and I'd imagine other chapters have recruited from aristotilian style planets in the past. Don't forget the Iron Snakes ;-) That being said, don't forget you can add animals/mythical creatures to your chapters name, e.g. Sons of Hydra. Which then goes on to give your army Chapter tactics - using Hydra as an example, you could say that once a Brother is slain, two more takes his place until the enemy is pounded into the dirt...or something to that effect I like your colour scheme, very striking! The thing that stands out to me most is the blue lenses...again, as said already, it's no doubt going to be a lot of work and we'd hate to see you getting frustrated with so many colours in so many different areas...but if that's what you want, then go for it, if you can pull it off your army will have an awesome presence on the tabletop! All the best, and good luck! Khaki Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3511239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blut Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Thanks for the input everyone! The Gorgon's Sons just need some help with their heraldry. It would be something I'd need to paint myself, unless anyone can recommend a site that does custom transfers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282491-struggling-with-name-and-heraldry-for-unknown-successors/#findComment-3512514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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