autek mor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Wow, lol. I'm glad my newness to HH/30k revealed a bonus for us Iron Hands players! So, if I play Iron Hands and use HotG, I can take ANY Legio Cybernetica Battle-Automata as an Elites choice?! That's pretty sweet! Our group is relatively new, and obeys the "rule of cool", so I'm excited to buy some giant, gravity-fist wielding robots! i am a fan of the robots too, what tactics do you have in mind for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Convert them into count as contemptor Cortus :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDecay Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Hello hello!My FLGS group has gotten the Heresy bug and everyone is jumping head first into 30k which is aaaawesome!I just wanted to drop my 3k list in here to see what the rest of the Iron Tenth thought and to maybe get some advice.To preface, everyone is aiming for 3k without lords of war as a baseline. I'll be using the Head of the Gorgon RoW to get my 6+ semi-IWND and outflanking dakka preds HQLegion Praetor w/ arti armour, iron halo, paragon blade, iron father(205)Castrmen Orth (probably in the Sicaran)(80)Troops20 Breachers w/ 4 Volkite Chargers, Vexillla, and Serge w/ Thunderhammer, Arti armour, cyber-familiar(405)10 man Tactical squad in a Rhino(185)EliteApothecary w/ Augory Scanner(50)Contemptor Dreadnought TalonFirst with double plasma cannons(195)Second with Chain fist and regular fist, 2 plasma blasters(225)10 Gorgon Termis w/ 2 Graviton Guns and a chain fist, Serge w/ CyberfamiliarDedicated Spartan w/ Flare Shield and Ceramite(765)3 Quad Mortars w/ Shatter Shells(210)HeavyDeredeo w/ Missiles and Autocannon(220)Sicaran w/ Lascannons(175)3 Dakka Preds in a squad(285)One question I did have was whether or not the artillery squad gets shooting directed at them resolved at -1 strength since the crew has the Legion Astartes rule?Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassangel Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Wow, lol. I'm glad my newness to HH/30k revealed a bonus for us Iron Hands players! So, if I play Iron Hands and use HotG, I can take ANY Legio Cybernetica Battle-Automata as an Elites choice?! That's pretty sweet! Our group is relatively new, and obeys the "rule of cool", so I'm excited to buy some giant, gravity-fist wielding robots! i am a fan of the robots too, what tactics do you have in mind for them? Not sure yet. Just need to play a bunch and get familiar with the system. I do know I will use the Mauler-bolter Castellax to blast Marines into a fine, pink mist. The Domitar I just want to run into things, like other robots, tanks, etc. Maybe give him Paragon of Metal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 One question I did have was whether or not the artillery squad gets shooting directed at them resolved at -1 strength since the crew has the Legion Astartes rule? Yes, provided that the target is one of the crew. Crew have the LA special rule, so ranged attacks subtract 1 strength, and are treated as having toughness 7 (so with the subtraction, it's T8). However the rapier does not have this rule, so if it's the target you treat it just as T7. For that reason it's often best to deploy with one dude standing in front and one dude standing in the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) The problem is that the rule was never written with mixed units in mind. Its not adding a toughness value so it wouldn't fall into Majority Toughness and you only dock the strength against "them" (them being models with the rule), but you only allocate to models after wounds have already been resolved, meaning that by the time you know the target model subtracts 1 strength from the shot you have already caused a wound to it. Mechanically speaking it doesn't work with artillery, except in the hypothetical case of the instant death threshold. Edited February 27, 2016 by SkimaskMohawk Hesh Kadesh 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) So, after confirmation of the new RoW's content, while I don't think it will be particularly competitive, it should be really awesome to field.A few things to consider:- Immortals as troops. That means we can replace tactical squads with a unit that is tough as nails, has access to special weapons, and has squadwide choom capabilities. They do have a high starting price tag, but they deliver quite the punch in units of 20.- Head of the Gorgon 2.0 : IMMORTALS IN SPARTANS EVERYWHERE! 13 spartans in a single FoC. What is more Iron Hands than that I ask?- all LA : IH gain hatred:traitors. That's one serious buff to Gorgons clean up ability, and doubly so to a unit of Battle Automata under a Praevian!So overall, not as much of a game changer as HotG, but still something that will let wreck havoc on the battlefield and hard to dislodge. Edited March 2, 2016 by Wolf_Pack Luna707 and Trydragon 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 If Immortals are wrong I don't want to be right! I love our new ROW, nice rundown Wolf Pack Shaolin_Monkey 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 OK just got book 6. Just finished reading about mor and his boys the fluff on the plate with the xiphon is great Need to get a xiphon now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I am getting one this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I am a fan of the Xiphon now. Cool looking model that works well with my Iron Hands Aesthetics. Played it in the apocalypse game last weekend, and it did ok. Just need to better establish targeting priority with him, as he doesn't crack armour as hard as a Primaris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 They may as well call it the Dread-Killer Fighter Memento Of Prospero and corvus.calvariam 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Just like to let you know, Charlo, you had 1111th reply to this thread. The binary is 15 with this one. Luna707 and Memento Of Prospero 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 01101000 01100101 01101100 01101100 00100000 01111001 01100101 01100001 01101000 00100000 00101101 00100000 01100111 01101100 01101111 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110010 01101111 01101110 00100000 01110100 01100101 01101110 01110100 01101000 Hesh Kadesh 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leman Russ SW Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Has anyone tried using Shadrak and a Raven Guard or Sali right of war? Might open up some interesting design space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I think the problem is all of thier RoW are rather limiting... Strong, but limiting. I think the RG one has some legs with massed drop pods of flamer sallies and Immortals but beyond that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Covenant of Fire makes your tanks tougher, and everyone knows I have a fetish for tanks. So little flesh! Luna707 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Covenant of Fire makes your tanks tougher, and everyone knows I have a fetish for tanks. So little flesh!Depends how the (Dark) Mechanicum forges have manufactured them! My traitorous IH brethren have a few that are instilled with (Daemonic) flesh! Memento Of Prospero 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 would be a good way to represent daemon possessed engines indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 What do you guys think about close combat oriented Immortals in a phobos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Ehhhh. Only one attack with not great combat options. Get the Gorgons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Alright next question, Gorgons or Cataphractii command squad to run with Autek Mor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Gorgons. FNP is just too good. Rather have a 5++ followed by another 5+ than just a 4+. Plus the blind chance is ace. And they grt relentless grav guns! Edited March 26, 2016 by Charlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Since the command squad is made up of 'characters' that can issue challenges and what not, can each take cyber familiar? Sorry if this is answered somewhere already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 They're not characters, just Chosen Warriors, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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