Charlo Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Sure can! It's a "Dreadnought", same as a Casta-Ferrus same as a Contemptor! Still though, I guess at 4.5k you could maybe do it. PAIN TRAIN CHOO CHOO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Sure can! It's a "Dreadnought", same as a Casta-Ferrus same as a Contemptor! Still though, I guess at 4.5k you could maybe do it. PAIN TRAIN CHOO CHOO. No, the Mastodon specifically calls out to Contemptors and Basic Legion Dreads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 When I get one, my Mastodon will be called the Hammer Time, and will carry Ferrus Manus with as many Gorgons as possible. IT. WILL. BE. GLORIOUS. and highly logical. Slips and Luna707 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Ferrus + 2 Contemptors +18 Gorgons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 With a couple of characters in there too. Autek Mor and a Rad grenade Forgelord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 16 Gorgons, then. :p Memento Of Prospero 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Sure can! It's a "Dreadnought", same as a Casta-Ferrus same as a Contemptor! Still though, I guess at 4.5k you could maybe do it. PAIN TRAIN CHOO CHOO. No, the Mastodon specifically calls out to Contemptors and Basic Legion Dreads. Well Damn. To be fair last I read it was a blurred photo the weekend of the book 6 event. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Does the alternative force organisation that gives you two Lord of War ignore the LoW % rules? If so, in 3k put Ferrus in a Mastodon with a Leviathan and terms. I call it the PAIN TRAIN "Onslaught" allows you to take 2 Lords of War, each of which must abide by the 25% rule (not combined). So, in a 3000 point army, you could have Ferrus in one slot and a Mastodon in the other slot, as neither is over 750 points! :) Flint13 and Reyner 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Does the alternative force organisation that gives you two Lord of War ignore the LoW % rules? If so, in 3k put Ferrus in a Mastodon with a Leviathan and terms. I call it the PAIN TRAIN "Onslaught" allows you to take 2 Lords of War, each of which must abide by the 25% rule (not combined). So, in a 3000 point army, you could have Ferrus in one slot and a Mastodon in the other slot, as neither is over 750 points! Oh.... DAMN. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4370734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) So I will be getting skitarii to act as solar auxilia or militia alongside my Iron Hands, and scurry beneath Little Timmy's feet. What do you guys think? Edited April 23, 2016 by Wolf_Pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4373442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Why waste Astartes as Bubblewrap when you could use Worthless Mortals? I approve :tu: BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4373444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think I can't wait for the titan guard upgrades and Choom Skitarii. I got a box on release that I've not built because of those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4373553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think I can't wait for the titan guard upgrades and Choom Skitarii. I got a box on release that I've not built because of those. that's why I just want to run them as Auxilia for now. Auxilia have the 4+ save and the choom! Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4373674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Trying out an a list for a potential tournament application today, and I want to field test leviathans and see how it goes: RoW: Pride of the Legion HQ Autek Mor Cyber Familiar Troops 6 Gorgon Terminators 2 Chainfists Spartan Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shield, Dozer Blade 10 Legion Veterans 2 Plasma Guns, 1 Power Axe, Melta bombs Rhino 10 Legion Veterans2 Plasma Guns, 1 Power Axe, Melta bombsRhino Fast Attack Xiphon Armoured Cockpit, Ground Tracking Elites 3 Quad Mortars Heavy Support Leviathan Dreadnought 2 Storm Cannons Phosphex Discharger, Volkite Calivers, Armoured Ceramite Leviathan Dreadnoght 2 Grav Flux bombards Phosphex Discharger, Volkite Calivers, Armoured Ceramite Lord of War Stormblade Armoured Ceramite, Space Marine Crew The leviathans seem odd without a pod and short ranged weapons, but their main goal is to flank the Stormblade and peel pressure and deter any assault approach to dealing with it. I always field lots of armour wit my Iron Hands, and the more I look at these guys the more I realize they can plug some gaps in our tank spread. They have brutal short ranged fire power and can keep the enemy at bay, where our superior armour will win the attrition. The mounted vets and Gorgons give me lots of mobility on the map for objective grabs. Quad Mortars are for any infantry blobs and hull point stripping. Edited April 27, 2016 by Wolf_Pack Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Cool stuff! Wall of AV should keep the littler ones safe. Why the Stormblade? Rule of cool it's awesome an a big ol' Plasma template or two is always welcome. Does it ignore cover at all? Points for the Fluffy Xiphon :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Cool stuff! Wall of AV should keep the littler ones safe. Why the Stormblade? Rule of cool it's awesome an a big ol' Plasma template or two is always welcome. Does it ignore cover at all? Points for the Fluffy Xiphon Min maxing is something I can do, but choose not to. The rule of cool brought me to the heresy, and playing a cohesive force is good enough for me. It has functionality, thus it works, and that's fine with me. Doesn't mean I can't tweak it and take suggestions for feedback. Stormblade is suprisingly cheap (455 base) and still sports 9 hull points. It doesn't ignore cover, but it's got range the typhon doesn't sport and it coves a large area, making it a good choice against tank squadrons/parking lots. it's a good workhorse overall for me and I want to find out if he is going to be my low point generalist pick. The Cerberus is my specialist pick at 3k or less, and above that I just field Little Timmy (warhound). The other contenders for the slot are the Typhon and Falchion. Ignoring cover and S:D are also features that are not to be ignored. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 For a deterant I would suggest having at least on cc arm on the leviathans. The guns are nice but I fear the claw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 For a deterant I would suggest having at least on cc arm on the leviathans. The guns are nice but I fear the claw. It might indeed bite me in the rear to have just shooty leviathan with 18 inch/24 inch guns. 2 bombards might be overkill on one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I did not see the Levvy's were pure shooty. I'd ditch the storm cannons personally and put a bombard on each, with a claw on one and drill on the other. shandwen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leman Russ SW Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The Stormblade is a great fluffy choice, book two says the Iron Hands have a large surplus of them, it's a shame they don't give the option in the plastic kit as I really want one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The Stormblade is a great fluffy choice, book two says the Iron Hands have a large surplus of them, it's a shame they don't give the option in the plastic kit as I really want one. I am going to get a Warhound titan plasma arm and mount it on. I am using a plastic baneblade for this game ;) Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The Stormblade is a great fluffy choice, book two says the Iron Hands have a large surplus of them, it's a shame they don't give the option in the plastic kit as I really want one. I am going to get a Warhound titan plasma arm and mount it on. I am using a plastic baneblade for this game Y'know what would be really fluff? An Armoured Company of two Stormblades flanking a Glaive Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The Stormblade is a great fluffy choice, book two says the Iron Hands have a large surplus of them, it's a shame they don't give the option in the plastic kit as I really want one. I am going to get a Warhound titan plasma arm and mount it on. I am using a plastic baneblade for this game Y'know what would be really fluff? An Armoured Company of two Stormblades flanking a Glaive Workin' on it ;) I might have a falchion instead of the glaive though, I love the look on that barrel! Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The Stormblade is a great fluffy choice, book two says the Iron Hands have a large surplus of them, it's a shame they don't give the option in the plastic kit as I really want one. I am going to get a Warhound titan plasma arm and mount it on. I am using a plastic baneblade for this game Y'know what would be really fluff? An Armoured Company of two Stormblades flanking a Glaive I'll raise you one more level of fluff and add in 4 sicarans as an escort for the stormblades. With Ferrus in the army of course, so they all have iwnd. Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4377739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) So... game Highlight! I took the advice and when with a snippy claw on each dread. They are a must. They do lots of work with them. Tanky even beyond my expectations. Stormblade: Powerful. Those pie plates get work done. They force your opponent to spread on deployment or risk having all his transport on one flank tanking S10 hits with lots of dice to pen. At 455 it's a solid pick. Mortarion came to play. 1000sons told me this when the game started: I was there at Isstvan, and saw the fall of Ferrus. Death cometh! Morty ended up getting wounded badly in a challenge with Autek Mor. Autek Mor goes first, hits 3 times, wounds once. Invulnerable on Morty. He swigs back, lands with 4, wounds with 4 instant death hits. Autek bounces all 4 wounds with invulnerable saves. At that point, I figure I win, he has one wound let. My whole squad swings and generates 4 wounds. He makes all 4 against is own disbelief. Then I remember the servo arm on Autek. Swing. Hit. Wound. Fails! Autek Mor replied at the end od the game, to his corps: And I have repaid you in kind! Edited April 29, 2016 by Wolf_Pack Cadmus Tyro, BLACK BLΠFLY and Iron Hands Fanatic 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282497-hh10-iron-hands-tactics/page/50/#findComment-4379050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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