TheHarrower Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 According to a report by Naftka, looks like there are some changes. Time to give the Blood Angels the ole nerf bat again. via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 Only things to change in the new digital release: Vanguard: Heroic intervention - now works as per SM Stormraven - no more deep strike Glaive Encarmine - now gives +1 str on a turn the model charges, but us otherwise STR as user, ap3, 2-handed, master crafted. I didn't see anything else different. Looks like my Vanguard Veterans go back in the box until next Codex. Sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 No more deepstrikefor Ravens as been in effect ever since Rulebook FAQ. All flyers lost the ability to do so then. I am not worried about VV changes, they did not see any play regardless. It's not a rules issue, it's a points issue. I do like those glaive changes! S6 on the charge with furious charge. DO WANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 The Stormraven already has that change. As for the rest, unless it appears in an FAQ format I wouldn't be too worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapelXIII Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Does this mean to keep playing I have to buy the digital rulebook though? I thought they weren't going to really be making rule changes in this version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Since I am likely to NOT buy the digital version, I'd have to wait for the FAQ with the updates. Excuse me while I plug both ears and sing to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I am not happy with the general direction of E-Books only content either. I want a hardcover book, so I can swat my enemies with it. It's my last bastion of hope to smite the enemies of the Imperium since they removed pewter models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 hmm, Glaive Encarmines having a single profile then? That actually is kind of naff if so. Or if the axe is AP2 +1 Strength and +2 Strength on the Charge, I'd be reasonably happy. (+3 with Furious Charge!) Sucks about the vanguard as no doubt they will cost the same as they do now, despite losing the only thing to make them vaguely worth their points... Really hope that we see a 'real' codex next year at some point, but with the digital not hitting till so late this year I'm betting we'll be waiting significantly longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If I may be cynical for a moment, FAQs don't net GW any money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 They indirectly do in terms of collateral damage sales. Rerolling another army after yours was mauled to the ground comes to mind ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 They really don't want C:BA armies to feature VV do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If they make the E-Codex update official, they need to release an updated FAQ. Otherwise people will be running the paper dex with the "latest" FAQ and being told they can't use their army. This topic just saved me the cost of the E-Dex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If I may be cynical for a moment, FAQs don't net GW any money... coughheldrakecough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 do we even have a release date yet? I find it interesting that it was advertised in WD at the same time as SoB but isnt out till quite a bit later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Today is the digital release.While I do like the glaive encarmine buff, throw in FC, I'll take striking at S6 on a charge for a sword. But to be honest, I've used Sanguinary Guard more in games than I have the Van Vets, but they still hardly see the table right now anyways, I just like the models. Since the GE is a 2 handed weapon, they never get a bonus for additional hand weapons anyways. So SG are only getting 3 attacks on a charge for a total of 15. While I pay the same price for a 5 man DC squad with packs, 2 power swords and an axe. 5 attacks each on the charge for a total of 25.Van Vets were already expensive for what you were getting before the C:SM treatment, and this is the icing on the cake. I will never field them again now until new codex. Their are better areas to spend points than to waste it on a now sub par unit. Death Company are still better than VV, even SG, expensive, but at least their worth it still.Only thing we can do is suck it up, and wait for our 6th ed codex. I haven't won a lot of games in 6th ed, but I still have fun 95% of my games, so this digital update really doesn't affect me in the least. We still have a lot of great units that we can field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanis Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 The Vanguard changes are sad, especially after those nicer kits have come out, but any consideration for those guys from me is quite put down now; however, the Glaive update makes them quite scary on the charge with a Priest nearby to grant some serious hitting power at least. A mixed bag update for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 So...VV can no longer charge after arriving from deep strike? Did they really do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Well, they are still technically RUMORS. So we won't find out until someone actually purchases it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Yep. Instead they can now do disordered charges without penalty making them about as useful as Lucius Drop Pods. Well, they are still technically RUMORS. So we won't find out until someone actually purchases it.Any one want to take one for the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If this is against the rules, I am sorry but being at work I would like to get a better grasp on this...could someone explain to me how disordered charge works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 You can charge 2 separate units, but you don't get the bonus +1 attack for a charge I believe. I never do it so I'm not 100% on that. Yep. Instead they can now do disordered charges without penalty making them about as useful as Lucius Drop Pods. Well, they are still technically RUMORS. So we won't find out until someone actually purchases it.Any one want to take one for the team? Um, I'm good Brother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 will get it when i get home.... i mean... more people buy this the more they'll know people want a real codex... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I don't think thats the case really. More so for SoB, but BA are still very popular. I think they just get updated when its their turn really. I think they will be in the bottom 3 for last updated. Purchasing the digi dex won't speed anything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I was just messing lol... I reckon we will get one next year if we are lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Well thats really just rude if they dont reduce the points on Vanguard Vets. Not that I use them anyway, and I doubt I would start using them even if they matched space marine VV prices, but such a big nerf on a already overcosted unit is just mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I've taken the bullet and bought it (my physical copy was falling apart anyway)..., there are no changes, looks like the rumours were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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