Kol Saresk Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 No further extrapolation made, aside from the fact that this company was not to become a part of the Gal Vorbak.Ah. Well, IIRC, the Gal Vorbak were only fifty strong until after the Massacre, weren't they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Aye, but this company was part of the original Chapter. So either it wasn't allowed to follow or they were wholesale among those that didn't make it out. Sounds like the former is the likelier, going by that little bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 There was a thread about whether Monarchia was due to their rate of conquest or their religiosity. Can't find it, so I'll post my finding here. Massacre delves into this, on pages 139-140. Forgive the lack of quotes, it's difficult enough on the phone. Apparently, Lorgar hid his faith rather well. There was no scene on Colchis, because the Emperor just didn't notice. Doesn't delve into the specifics on that one. Anyway, Lorgar converts the Imperial Heralds to Emperor worship, over a really freaking long time. When all the old Iconoclasts are gone from decades of attrition and the Legion is full faithful, he renames it to the Word Bearers. Rumors begin spreading about this, but the War Council and the Emperor ignore them as false hearsay. But what he doesn't ignore is their slow crawl. When that comes to his attention, he investigates and finds that the reason why is this faith. Then he hesitates. Possibly he met with Lorgar personally and felt the matter settled. Or maybe he simply didn't want to punish a(nother) son. Much of happens here was lost. But eventually, the Ultramarines were unleashed upon Khur's Perfect City. Then the fateful kneeling in the ash scene. And what is said? Only this: ". . . the Word Bearers knelt before their Emperor. He was no god, and would suffer no such belief in his realm. The Emperor departed . . ." That's it. So neener neener, I was right. Monarchia was all about the Emperor worship, not their slow rate of conquest. That was just what brought their faith to the Emperor's full attention, that convinced him the rumors needed verification. This came a bit out of no where, not sure how it relates to chapters sorry :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Read the first paragraph WoT. . . . Did you name yourself after Wheel of Time? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Nah Words of Truth lol Rubbish name but had it for ages now and never changed. Some think it means World of Tanks lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Good. I'd think less of you if it was. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 LORE CONTRADICTION! "Magnus," Lorgar smiled as he saw the emotion on his brothers face. "only the truly divine deny their divinity. It's written thus in countless human cultures. He never once denied his godhood when he first came to Colchis to take me to the stars. You were there. He witnessed weeks of celebrations in his honor, never once rebuking me for lauding him as a god." THE FIRST HERETIC, page 159-160 That does not sound like Aurelian kept mum about the whole God Emperor thing in front of dad when he first showed up. Yet Forge World says he did. Clearly, we must resolve this in the only reasonable way possible. ADB vs Alan Bligh. Lochaber axes at dawn. To the pain! More seriously...the Emperor is stamping out religion (Horus Rising, "The Last Church") but he promotes Martian worship of himself as technogod, Catherics seem to have been tolerated (Hetnando Bronzi, Oll Pious, Hawser's remembrancer pal in Prospero Burns), and then you have the Space Wolves "Allfather this! Uppland that!" every time they open their mouths... The overall impression one gets is not that the Emperor hates religion, but that he is tsundere as hell for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 WoT, what will be your Word Bearer chapters special tactic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 LORE CONTRADICTION! "Magnus," Lorgar smiled as he saw the emotion on his brothers face. "only the truly divine deny their divinity. It's written thus in countless human cultures. He never once denied his godhood when he first came to Colchis to take me to the stars. You were there. He witnessed weeks of celebrations in his honor, never once rebuking me for lauding him as a god." THE FIRST HERETIC, page 159-160 That does not sound like Aurelian kept mum about the whole God Emperor thing in front of dad when he first showed up. Yet Forge World says he did. Clearly, we must resolve this in the only reasonable way possible. ADB vs Alan Bligh. Lochaber axes at dawn. To the pain! More seriously...the Emperor is stamping out religion (Horus Rising, "The Last Church") but he promotes Martian worship of himself as technogod, Catherics seem to have been tolerated (Hetnando Bronzi, Oll Pious, Hawser's remembrancer pal in Prospero Burns), and then you have the Space Wolves "Allfather this! Uppland that!" every time they open their mouths... The overall impression one gets is not that the Emperor hates religion, but that he is tsundere as hell for it. Well the tone of the Forgeworld books are looking back with incomplete records, much like the IA articles did, but without the "Now in 40K". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I like my plan better. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282707-word-bearers-chapters/page/2/#findComment-3511790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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