LordCommanderSamirus Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Did anyone else read the new character update from FW. Malakim Phoros is now actually sort of worth taking... a lot actually. -Samirus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 yes, he is waaaay better. now I wish i hadn't sold my Lammies on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 yea, he's... fragile for a chapter master, but he can be oh so powerful. I also did a double take when someone mentioned his meltapistol actually has the range of a meltagun! completely missed it the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I would honestly rather field Tyberos the Red Wake as a Flesh Tearers chapter master. He gives you a squad of lightning claw termies as troop, and their chapter tactics are pretty good. (Carcharodons)Malakim Phoros rules seem to similar to Lemartes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Malakim is quite good, 6" hatred bubble is neat, moreover finally we have a cheap HQ that has some use in CC. I can see him now, riding SR with 5 TH/SS and Corbs ... nasty plain nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 If we use him can we just put him in a regular ba army or do we need our army to represent the lamenters? Cause he pretty badarse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 If we use him can we just put him in a regular ba army or do we need our army to represent the lamenters? Cause he pretty badarse Lamenters use Codex: BA, so yes he's fair game (assuming your opponents don't baulk at FW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If we use him can we just put him in a regular ba army or do we need our army to represent the lamenters? Cause he pretty badarse Lamenters use Codex: BA, so yes he's fair game (assuming your opponents don't baulk at FW). Cool going to make an conversion of him using Gabriel Seth's model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Has Tyberos never had an Iron Halo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 What is going on with his Glaive Encarmine? Strength User/AP3 as one would ecpect (his is a sword I think from memory?), but +1S on the turn he charges. Is this a possible clue to the future codex? If so then an Axe may be +2S on charge, +3S when furious charging @ Sama - I don't know mate, possible typo? I would have thought he would have tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 he's never had a model, or much of a physical description, so I don't know where you get the sword idea In my head, it's always been a glaive. A real glaive - somewhere between a sword and a spear. And that's exactly what this (ap3 for sword, extra strength on the charge for spear) glaive seems to be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Still not entirely impressed by him. I like his 12" infernus pistol and glaive, thats about it. Rage is good and all, but he has to take a wound, and he has to be part of a squad for them to gain rage as well (which makes perfect sense). But if I wanted a character to give me a round of re-roll hits in combat, and rage, then why wouldn't I just take some death company and a chaplain to the same extent? Because that is essentially what you are doing by putting him in a squad, granted he takes a wound.It's great for all those Lamenter players out there that want to field a fluffy character that is part of their own chapter, but as for fielding him in a BA army, I think we have better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 he's never had a model, or much of a physical description, so I don't know where you get the sword idea In my head, it's always been a glaive. A real glaive - somewhere between a sword and a spear. And that's exactly what this (ap3 for sword, extra strength on the charge for spear) glaive seems to be doing. I haven't read his fluff from the IA, just having seen a few conversions of him invariably with a sword. As for a real glaive - I thought none of the Glaive Encarmines were 'real' as in the FAQ they just quote axes and swords, so I just go by that although the spears would be nice when run with Dante. However, that is an argument that has been done to death elsewhere. If Phoros' was exactly as a power spear it would drop to AP4 on subsequent rounds of combat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 He sounds quite good in a squad of lighning claw termies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 he's never had a model, or much of a physical description, so I don't know where you get the sword idea In my head, it's always been a glaive. A real glaive - somewhere between a sword and a spear. And that's exactly what this (ap3 for sword, extra strength on the charge for spear) glaive seems to be doing. I haven't read his fluff from the IA, just having seen a few conversions of him invariably with a sword. As for a real glaive - I thought none of the Glaive Encarmines were 'real' as in the FAQ they just quote axes and swords, so I just go by that although the spears would be nice when run with Dante. However, that is an argument that has been done to death elsewhere. If Phoros' was exactly as a power spear it would drop to AP4 on subsequent rounds of combat? That's why I'm saying it's not a spear - it remains ap3. And as such it's not like the glaive encarmines we know from the standard BA codex, but a unique weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm reasonably certain you'll see Glaives Encarmine becoming like Malakim Phoros's weapon in the Blood Angels digital Codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 That will be awesome having glaive axe's at S8 (+1 glaive,+2axe,+1FC) on charge while AP2....welcome back sang guard :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm reasonably certain you'll see Glaives Encarmine becoming like Malakim Phoros's weapon in the Blood Angels digital Codex. It's already been released, and with no changes. Unless you mean in the new 6th ed codex, then absolutely, and I can't wait for that. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Oh. Well damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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