t4play Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Flame storm? Assault cannon? Mix of both? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 2 assault cannon, 1 flame storm, HB sponsons on all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3516770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Magnets, ALL OF THEM! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3516798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 ^^ This. Magnetsise all of them. Otherwise, as per k&F, Asscans are more useful, have two of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3516819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I have 4 Baal preds (for big games) 3 w/ AC, 1 w/FSC - all hb sponsons.In 99% of my games I run 3 baal preds w/ AC HB combo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3517683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Wouldn't speeders or bikes function cheaper? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3517690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Speeders are fragile and get expensive by the time you start throwing an AC on them. Baal preds 13 front AV is hard to deal with. In a large game with multiple FOC, I could see an escort of attack bikes for my baal preds, but they are pretty efficient at anti-infantry, even rending against high AV. I'd almost just want to take 3 more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3517699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 I don't have the points for side sponcens 2 assault cannon 1 flame sounds good to me Although against my sons tau wouldn't I be better with two flame storm as they seem to toast his guys easily? How do you run 4 baals? Thought you could only have 3 fast attack? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milkman Of Baal Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I wouldn't run flame Baal against Tau mate the haywire grenades will mess them up IF you can get in range without getting schwacked. Might be good against Eldar rangers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Yes, but remember, our preds can scout, therefor outflank. Popping up right behind a tau gun line with a st.6 ap 3 template, your killing almost everything.I've hardly used them, but they do have their place when outflanking. Heck, even AC preds outflanking a gun line is mean as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Yes, but remember, our preds can scout, therefor outflank. Popping up right behind a tau gun line with a st.6 ap 3 template, your killing almost everything. I've hardly used them, but they do have their place when outflanking. Heck, even AC preds outflanking a gun line is mean as well. To be honest I've only used one with flame storm it hurt his army big time and was made a priority target from then on So I was asking about best armament to run three which should take his mind off my DC coming his way for a turn (I can hope) one running up scouting (as a priority target) two outflank Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepowerofwar Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 A few of us in my gamming group have been thinking on using them with 3 flamers and outflanking them to it to the tau gun lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 A few of us in my gamming group have been thinking on using them with 3 flamers and outflanking them to it to the tau gun lines. bbq'd fish anyone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Flesh tearers do enjoy a good victory BBQ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I don't have the points for side sponcens Make the points, otherwise you may as well be using Razorbacks with assault cannons. Drop the flamestorm to take 2 sets of sponsons on the other two, then take something else useful like a MM attack bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Yeah, the sponsons are hugely important on our preds. That's what gives us the scary amount of firepower that we can lay down. The points aren't THAT bad. I always carry the storm bolter on their as well. 12 SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS! per turn per pred.When it comes down to having a weapon destroyed as well, having those extra weapons on their to help randomize it goes a long way. Our preds are pretty cheap for the amount of destruction they can do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Sounds like I should find the points then . . Just thought that having 3 hull points that can be lost in one turn of shooting would mean I lose a lot of fire power in one go. Ie all eggs in one basket Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 That's true for just about any vehicle. The sponsons however doesn't add that much to the price of the Baal while giving you a lot of extra shots and a bit of extra range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Messing with the numbers Might end up two assault with hb sponsons flamestorm without Added to two razors with assault canon And 3 rhino with bolter guys 2 tac 1 dc out the top hopefully will all help Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Messing with the numbers Might end up two assault with hb sponsons flamestorm without Added to two razors with assault canon And 3 rhino with bolter guys 2 tac 1 dc out the top hopefully will all help Swap one ass cannon razor to heavy bolter, use those points to get HB sponsons on the third Baal. Think about it. Either 1 TL asscan+ flamestorm, or 1 TLHB, 2xHB, and Flamestorm. You double your firepower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Spot on :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3518834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/BuddahMickey/null_zpsee112bfb.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3522034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moric Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I am jealous i gotta have me 3 Baals!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3522652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 I am jealous i gotta have me 3 Baals!!!! Have to say I'm looking forward to my 1st game with them all think it's going to be fun more than competitive Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3522949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Get 3 auto/las preds in there too for some fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283020-3-baals/#findComment-3526119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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