thepowerofwar Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I don't think Missiles would be that effective against the BA dreads since they are AV 13. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283049-help-fine-tuning-a-list/page/2/#findComment-3523755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 Brother I understand your love of PAWG As much as I love Wolf Guard in power armour they are just not as efficient as their Grey Hunter brothers. Yes you can rack of alot of Combi-Weapons but that is a alot of point for a 1 hit wonder with only a 3+ Save. I tend to find if I am going to be running WG they will be my deathstar and kitted out with TDA. I run them as a deep field wreck face unit usually with Arjac heading up the assault and popping tanks with Mjolnir Mk.2. I also think the 3rd Rune Priest would be a good idea, Blood Angels really do have access to some fearsome powers, Blood Lance for starters is evil!! Dropped one TWC added a Storm shield to the other Thunder Wolf. Dropped all PAWG except for one. He will be leading GH Pack 1. WG unit is now: Assault Cannon/ChainFist Wolf Claw/Wolf Claw Combi-Plasma/PowerFist Storm Bolter/Power Axe Thunder Hammer/StormShield The Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield guy will be leading Pack 2 that is now 8 strength in numbers. Packs 3 and 4 are now 10 man squads. I now have 2 Rune Priests in the list, I'm going to go ahead and throw TDA on him for extra protection. My buddy does not like the sound of runic weapons so he's going to want to take them out ASAP. He technically has 4 librarians, but two of those are dreadnoughts and between my Missiles and Lascannons will be brought down very easily. If he makes the mistake of keeping one in the backfield he'll find out how nerfed Dreadnoughts are now will hullpoints and they wont be around very long. I'm thinking I may need another storm shield in the WG unit. We'll see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283049-help-fine-tuning-a-list/page/2/#findComment-3523758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I Definatly understand the not having all the drop pods thing, it was simply a suggestion. If you plan on soloing you wolf lord I would invest 80-120 points into some fenrisian wolves. This is a cheap reasonably brutal unit that can get your wolf lord into combat and provide the bubble wrap you are looking for at the price of 1 thunder wolf calvary hit with storm shield. Just a thought if you go that route Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283049-help-fine-tuning-a-list/page/2/#findComment-3524307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I put the below list together as a thought for you to consider. The wolf lord would join the 10 Fen wolves. The Lone Wolf would stay back for a turn or two to protect the long fangs from any surprises, then move forward for his death march. Rune Priest in the Rhino would protect close or home objectives while casting out of the rhino hatch and the rest pretty much speaks for itself. warlord: Wolf Lord Runic Armor, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Wolf Tail Talisman and Wolftooth Necklace. Saga of the Bear, Thunder Wolf Mount, and 1 Fen Wolf. Rune PriestsPower Armor, Runic Weapon, CoTS, (LL and JoTWW) Joins Rhino GH unit Power Armor, Runic Weapon, Runic Armor -Melta Bombs, (psychic powers MH and JoTWW) Joins DP GH unit. Elites:1 - Lone Wolf TDA Storm Shield / Chain Fist and 1 Fen Wolf.Troops:Grey Hunter Pack 19x Grey Hunters, Flamer, Power Axe, - RHINOGrey Hunter Pack 29x Grey Hunters, Plasma Gun, Power Axe, Standard, - Drop PodGrey Hunter Pack 310x Grey Hunters, 2x Plasma Gun -Drop PodGrey Hunters Pack 410x Grey Hunters, 2x Meltagun -Drop PodFA:2x TWC Wolf Claw - SS/CCW and SS/TH 10X Fen Wolves HS:Long Fang Pack 1Pack Leader1x Lascannon 4x Missile LauncherLong Fang Pack 2Pack Leader1x Lascannon 3x Missile Launcher Fortifications: Aegis Defence Line - Icarus Lascannon Total: 2000 Edit, forgot to take out the Extra WL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283049-help-fine-tuning-a-list/page/2/#findComment-3524345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 Question.Say I keep a list closer to what I have. Maybe Add some of the Fenrisian Wolves in there. If I Drop Pod the Rune Priests. Could I then move them so they are leading the two Grey Hunter Packs? Based on the rules that's what independent Characters do when they get close enough to one unit is get attached to that unit right?I really really wish Lone Wolves could be drop pod'dI am also thinking about doing a Heavy Bolter/Lascannon Combo for LF 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283049-help-fine-tuning-a-list/page/2/#findComment-3524469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well my buddy isn't going to purchase what he needs for his Tau allied detachment before the game, so he his doing Blood Angels allied with White Scar SM. Here's the list Blood Angels Detachment2x LibrarianJump Pack2x Command Squad 4x Plasma Jump Packs2x 10 man Assault Squad2x Plasma5x man Vanguard squadx5 Lightning ClawsWhite Scars DetachmentSM CaptainBike 2x Lightning ClawsCommand Squad4x bikes4x Plasma Gun 4x Lightning Claws5 man bike squad2x PlasmaSo, this list is definitely more mobile. It definitely doesn't appear as bothersome as the last list did. I was planning on playing fairly aggressive on the first list. For this list I definitely think I'm going to be a little more defensive and let my SW's do what they do best. Counter Attacks and shooty. I think I may redue my TDAWG drop pod units because I don't even think I need all the CC support I thought I was going to need.For my Long Fangs I definitely feel like the Heavy Bolter/Lascannon combo is going to benefit me a lot against this list. Especially if he tries to deep strike on my Long Fangs with his Vanguard vets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283049-help-fine-tuning-a-list/page/2/#findComment-3528243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 My updated list, since it hasn't been posted yetHQWolf LordThunder Wolf Mount, Runic Armor, StormShield, ThunderHammer, Saga of the BearRune PriestCoTS, Runic WeaponLiving Lightning, JoTWWRune PriestRunic Weapon(either storm caller or tempest wrath), JoTWWElites Wolf Guard5x TDAWGAssault Cannon/Storm Shield, Combi-Plasma, PowerFist, WC/WC, Storm Bolter/Chainfist, ThunderHammer/StormShieldDrop PodTroopsGH Pack 19x GH, Power Axe, Plasma Gun, MoTW, StandardDrop PodGH Pack 28x GH, Plasma Gun, MoTW, StandardDrop PodGH Pack 310x GH, 2x Plasma GunDrop PodGH Pack 410x GH, 2x Plasma GunDrop PodFATWCStorm Shield, CCWHSLong Fang Pack 14x Missile Launcher1x LascannonLong Fang Pack 23x Heavy Bolter2x LascannonTotal comes to 1950I am considering taking or changing the WG for a Lone Wolf and or/for the purpose of opening up points elsewhere. It would be nice to add the other TWC rider back in the list, and maybe have some room for some Fenrisian wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283049-help-fine-tuning-a-list/page/2/#findComment-3528246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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