Q1:"Feel no pain"........ q2:"within x inches"

[Roma]

Hi all, 2 questions.

 

What ignores fnp? Would a weapon that is twice the strenght of a dude's toughness count as being instant death, and thus ignore fnp?

 

For things like icons, it says within 6 inches. I remember in the old brb, for disembarking, the diagram showed marines with the very edge of their base touching a 2 inch bubble, and the rest of the base outside. Does this mean withing is "touching with any part of the base, or within"?

[Dam13n]

Anything that causes Instant Death disallows Feel no Pain.  This includes the Force and Instant Death special rules and all attacks with a strength double the toughness of the target.

 

Within X" means 'so long as any part of the models base is within X" ' for most purposes.

- There is an exception, and that is when it states that a models base must wholly be within a certain distance (for example, disembarking in 6th edition).

[DarkGuard]

The FnP rules in the Rulebook clearly state what weapons ignore it.

 

And as long as part of the base is in the aura then it gets effects, the whole base doesn't have to be in it.

[Magpie]

Within X is defined in the rule book as the.distance measured between bases.

 

Wholly within means the entire base is encompassed by X

[Grey Mage]

Theres also 'units within X" ' wich also require only partially being inside the measurement- an example would be the blood angels chalice, wherein any member of the unit being within 6" would give the unit as a whole FNP.

[Dam13n]

GM - I've always thought of those as:

 

'A unit with at least one model within X" of a model with Y...'

 

As that is a less vague wording (and one I wish GW would use more often, as it would simplify a lot of the "within X" rules, thus making gameplay faster).

[Magpie]

I think their definitions of "within" and "wholly within" on Page 4 pretty much cover it ?