WG Capt. Iagn Thunderclaw Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 If I have one pink horror 24" away from a 10 marine bolter squad but the rest of my pink horror squad are 25+ inches away, can the marine squad wound more than the one pink horror that is within range? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 If I have one pink horror 24" away from a 10 marine bolter squad but the rest of my pink horror squad are 25+ inches away, can the marine squad wound more than the one pink horror that is within range? Not unless one of the marines was smart and packed a Las-Cannon instead. If none of the models have range then the model can not be allocated a wound, unless it is a blast weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3518654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 If I have one pink horror 24" away from a 10 marine bolter squad but the rest of my pink horror squad are 25+ inches away, can the marine squad wound more than the one pink horror that is within range? Not unless one of the marines was smart and packed a Las-Cannon instead. If none of the models have range then the model can not be allocated a wound, unless it is a blast weapon. He didn't say none of them had range. Assumedly, all of them have range on 1 horror, but the other horrors are behind that. The question is if the wounds can be allocated beyond the first wound to models that are otherwise outside of the range of the marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3520346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 If I have one pink horror 24" away from a 10 marine bolter squad but the rest of my pink horror squad are 25+ inches away, can the marine squad wound more than the one pink horror that is within range? Not unless one of the marines was smart and packed a Las-Cannon instead. If none of the models have range then the model can not be allocated a wound, unless it is a blast weapon. He didn't say none of them had range. Assumedly, all of them have range on 1 horror, but the other horrors are behind that. The question is if the wounds can be allocated beyond the first wound to models that are otherwise outside of the range of the marines. When allocating wounds a model in the target unit needs to be within range of at least one model in the unit. If each marine can only actually reach maybe two horrors then only those two can be allocated wounds. FAQ clarifies this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3520702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 however, if one marine had a weapon with 36 inches or more, the bolters could kill the whole squad. Due to all of them being within range of at least one weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3522338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Capt. Iagn Thunderclaw Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 however, if one marine had a weapon with 36 inches or more, the bolters could kill the whole squad. Due to all of them being within range of at least one weapon. That's nuts! If a Marine Tac Squad has a marine with a Lazcannon (48") shooting a target 47" away how could the whole unit be able to wound? That would also apply to Eldar Shurikan weapons with a 36" range Bright Lance! That would put a whole unit of possible AP 2 shots which normally are only effective within 12" be able to hitting from 36" away. that just doesn't make any sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3522412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 however, if one marine had a weapon with 36 inches or more, the bolters could kill the whole squad. Due to all of them being within range of at least one weapon. That's nuts! If a Marine Tac Squad has a marine with a Lazcannon (48") shooting a target 47" away how could the whole unit be able to wound? That would also apply to Eldar Shurikan weapons with a 36" range Bright Lance! That would put a whole unit of possible AP 2 shots which normally are only effective within 12" be able to hitting from 36" away. that just doesn't make any sense. First of all, only the models that are in range to the unit and have LoS to hit can actually shoot, so if the enemy is 35" away only the lascannon or bright lance get to shoot. However, if the closest model IS 12" away, then everyone gets to shoot and all models that could have been hit by the cannon/lance can get killed by a bolter or shuriken. Doesn't make any sense, but that's how the rule is written :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3522417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Capt. Iagn Thunderclaw Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 however, if one marine had a weapon with 36 inches or more, the bolters could kill the whole squad. Due to all of them being within range of at least one weapon. That's nuts! If a Marine Tac Squad has a marine with a Lazcannon (48") shooting a target 47" away how could the whole unit be able to wound? That would also apply to Eldar Shurikan weapons with a 36" range Bright Lance! That would put a whole unit of possible AP 2 shots which normally are only effective within 12" be able to hitting from 36" away. that just doesn't make any sense. First of all, only the models that are in range to the unit and have LoS to hit can actually shoot, so if the enemy is 35" away only the lascannon or bright lance get to shoot. However, if the closest model IS 12" away, then everyone gets to shoot and all models that could have been hit by the cannon/lance can get killed by a bolter or shuriken. Doesn't make any sense, but that's how the rule is written :/ What you wrote I understand. But the previous post stated that even though the bolters were out of range by 1 inch or more, because the lazcannon is in range that makes the whole unit in range even the 24" bolters since at least one model has range. That is completely different from what you wrote. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3522421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Actually the post that confused you was probably just unclear. After all we are talking about wound allocation here. If you've already hit and wounded and then look at the next step what was said makes sense, but on it's own it is not clear. But yeah you need to be able to actually hit and wound with a weapon on a per model basis, but allocating wounds is per the "Units" range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283125-ranged-weapons-and-wound-allocation/#findComment-3522422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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