Idea on how the Blood Angels get to Terra

[Knight of the First Legion]

Hi Brothers,

 

Apologies if this has been suggested before, but a thought occurred to me today regarding the problem of the Blood Angels reaching Terra in time for the siege, but the Ultramarines and Dark Angels not doing so despite the fact that they are all at Magragge at the same time as the timeline stands after The Unremembered Empire.

 

My idea surrounds the beacon/transport device on Sotha.

 

The book showed how the device could be used to transport marines across vast distances if they really wanted too (as the device is empathicly controlled rather than psychicly) so could this be the answer?

 

 As i see it the situation could look like this if the beacon was tuned to Terra:

 

- Sanguinius - wants to get to Terra and so is able too. All BA's want to be with Sanguinius so can also make the transfer

 

- Guilliman - Wants to get to Terra, but ultimately wants to protect Ultramar more so cannot make the transfer. Ultra's want to be by Guillimans side so also cannot transfer

 

- The Lion - Wants to get to Terra, but cannot express the desire in a way the beacon can detect (the Lion couldn't use the beacon in Unremembered Empire) so cannot make the transfer. DA's want to stay by Lion's side so cannot make transfer. Frustrated the Lion heads to Terra the long way using his fleet and the fully xenos mechanical sphere thing

 

What do you think?

 

KOTFL

[Daddywarcrimes]

That about sums up the way I'm expecting things to go.

 

Edit:  Or maybe, at the last second, the Lion thinks about punching Leman Russ in the mouth and winds up accidentally dragging the Dark Angels back to where ever the Sixth is stranded.

[Kol Saresk]

Actually, I see it as ending up as the BA get to Terra however they can, the Ultramarines decide to consolidate any and all territory they can between Ultramar and Terra and the DA try to round up reinforcements, explaining how they join up with the Space Wolves.

[Perrin]

I think the DA warp travel thing is going to bite the dust soon. Otherwise they have no excuse for not being at the final Siege, as previous fluff has them just missing it, I don't think that excuse could fly now they have this magic warp transporter thingy.

[Kol Saresk]

No, the warp thingy has something that stinks of an unresolved plot.

[Perrin]

Oh yeah, I don't mean it's going to die straight away in the next DA book, but I think it will be destroyed before the end of the Heresy, as well as the Sothos device.

 

My guess is that remnants of the NL are going to turn up at Sotha, find the Scythes guarding it and try to take it for themselves, possibly drawing the DA fleet to the area which is when Sevatar and Friends will break out of prison on the DA ship and destroy things. Kurze will also turn up somewhere along the line as well, possibly using the same method that RG and the Lion used to escape him. End result: both pieces of technology destroyed.

 

Not spoilers by the way, just a theory.

 

 

On topic, is the Chaos Marine in the original Grey Knights omnibus a fallen Blood Angel? The one that is a little bit of a rip off of Gladiator. I remember him being a Khorne worshipper, but slightly unique because instead of being a berserker he had control over blood instead. He was essentially a marine vampire, and that seems to fit a chaos BA pretty well.

[Kol Saresk]

That's a lot of remnants. Only one fifth of the Legion that was at Sheol was confirmed destroyed. There's still something like 90-100 thousand Night Lords that survived the battle plus however many were roaming around plus however many new recruits they pull in between the two events since Massacre says they were recruiting from multiple worlds and where even practicing accelerated implantation.

 

Although there is one thing to note about the warp device the Lion has. It isn't instantaneous travel. So far, all we've seen it do is promise a smooth ride through the warp. It still took a period of time for the Lion to travel from the second Night Lords ambush to Macragge, so it wouldn't necessarily have to be destroyed as it only provides warp coordination and no turbulence.

 

The Pharos on the other hand, it provides a beacon for others to follow and if the empathy resonates strong enough, can also allow for instantaneous transport, although time will have to be allowed for targeting.

 

So if Sotha gets attacked by the Night Lords(which is actually probable since it is one of the fallback points mentioned in Prince of Crows, the Lion won't be able to just swoop in. Especially since getting out of the Ruinstorm is supposed to be harder than getting in.

[Perrin]

I don't think its "if Sotha gets attacked" I think its "when". Like I said, when the Night Lords turn up there they aren't going to just run away when they see a world guarded by a single company of Ultras.

Right, so with the warp device the Lion will have to travel normally through the warp to get to Sotha, but I assume they are both reasonably close to each other, and it'll be smooth sailing, so he should get there pretty quickly. Isn't Sotha within Ultramar and thus within the Ruinstorm?

[Kol Saresk]

Well, Sotha is outside of Ultramar IIRC, that's why Dantioch was able to go to it, but no reinforcements were able to be sent.

[Brother-Sergeant Bohemond]

I'm assuming Jonson is going to reach Caliban earlier than we all thought...and thats why the Angels were late.

[Augustus]

Nah. Odds are there is a window where only the Blood Angels make it through. Then, the Lion is like Ill collect Russ for the Hammer blow and hit the traitors from behind. And Guillimen proves the Lion right by dragging his feet.

 

A boy can dream.

[Sevatar]

Assuming the NL do attack Sotha... won't there be hundreds of thousands of angry UMs protecting it? Since it's the most important piece of tech around?

[Kol Saresk]

Assuming the NL do attack Sotha... won't there be hundreds of thousands of angry UMs protecting it? Since it's the most important piece of tech around?

No. Sotha is outside of Ultramar and therefore outside of the Ruinstorm. The Ultramarines that are there now were there as a garrison force before the Heresy ever began. Reinforcements are either going to have to empath there way to Sotha through Pharos, or brave the Ruinstorm.

 

Sotha is cut off and isolated.

[Brother-Sergeant Bohemond]

Jonson/Curze round 3/4? (depending if you want to count the scrap between him and Guillieman/Jonson as one...)

[Kol Saresk]

Jonson and Curze would almost have to be at Macragge.

 

And technically it'd be Round 4/5, depending on how you count the three-way fight. ;)

[Frosco Toppings]

I hope they don't fight each other again otherwise they'll end up like He-man vs Skeletor, constantly clashing yet nobody ever dies

[depthcharge12]

I hope they don't fight each other again otherwise they'll end up like He-man vs Skeletor, constantly clashing yet nobody ever dies

 

This is what comes to mind:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-VGyp8PJIk

 

 

plot armor my butt