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So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing.  The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot.


 

We then think we’re seeing him in UE but it turns out that the Alpha Legion are disguised as him, so clearly they’ve come across him somewhere, but where the hell is he?  Why didn’t Abnett elaborate on what is essentially his own character.  Has he bumped into Marius Gage at some point perhaps and has become preoccupied with smashing up some WB's?


 

What are people thoughts regarding where he is and how he’ll next feature…

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I think he'll defo make a return, I'm just mystified as to why there was no further mention of him in UE.  I thought we would have at least got a sniff to hang on to at the end of the book but it seems like we'll get something later on.

 

I think he's defo come into contact with the AL and whilst I hope he's not dead it interesting how they managed to steal Ultra Marine armour and pretend to be him, it cant' be his armour though because his was covered in blood hence the infiltration of WB's on Calth.

Hence the mission survival record; all the best legionnaires are playing the heroes of the other legions.

 

Despite how epic and grimdark it would be (I <3 Thiel), I really doubt BL will pull K. Loken's T-X on Thiel (no, not the Astartes, the one with the bigger chest).

 

I just can't believe we sold them Sigismund.

So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing.  The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot.

Censure? Is this yet another limited edition book that I haven't been able to get hold of? :cuss!

 

 

 

So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing. The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot.

Censure? Is this yet another limited edition book that I haven't been able to get hold of? :cuss!
Audiodrama I believe.

 

EDIT: Yep. Here it is.

 

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/censure-mp3.html

 

 

 

 

So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing. The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot.

Censure? Is this yet another limited edition book that I haven't been able to get hold of? :cuss!
Audiodrama I believe.

 

EDIT: Yep. Here it is.

 

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/censure-mp3.html

Thanks. I got 2 or 3 of those but they just seemed a bit short for what they cost.

That's what we thought about Loken...

 

Thiel could be pivotal. Personally I want to see Gage back and doing some smashing. Though I've got a feeling he'll have a messy end and the Ultramarines will get betrayed in a devastating trick, yet again.

 

 

 

Jesus Christ, WHY. Not every side character needs go there.

At least Argel Tal and Sheed Ranko are safe from that particular brand of nonsense.
I could imagine both in front of Malcador:

 

'Argel Tal, i want you to become one of my grey knights'

'Yeah I'm cool with that, let me just ask the other guy'

'Errr, what other guy'

'DEMON SMASH'

 

And with Ranko, him and Malcador will be going around for ever. 'I am Malcador', 'No, I am Malcador'....

A quick search through the Harlequin-held Black Library shows that the words most often uttered by Alpharius, in the order most often used, are "Stop copying me."

 

I seem to remember Gage was mentioned somewhere as the first Chapter Master of the Ultramarines Chapter, following the Heresy and Scouring. I can't think of where I heard that, though, so it's likely I am mistaken. If not, it means Gage might be returning. Since he was not listed as killed, I don't mind if he does. He was lost in the chaos of war. We have no idea if he is dead or not. 

 

But likely, he is dead.

A quick search through the Harlequin-held Black Library shows that the words most often uttered by Alpharius, in the order most often used, are "Stop copying me."

I seem to remember Gage was mentioned somewhere as the first Chapter Master of the Ultramarines Chapter, following the Heresy and Scouring. I can't think of where I heard that, though, so it's likely I am mistaken. If not, it means Gage might be returning. Since he was not listed as killed, I don't mind if he does. He was lost in the chaos of war. We have no idea if he is dead or not.

But likely, he is dead.

IIRC, he is list as the "Master of the First Chapter", or "Chapter Master" msn-wink.gif.

But in seriousness, apparently he is also in the Collected Visions on page 165. Maybe there is something said there?

Maybe. I actually think it was something stated here by someone, or on one of the wikis. I read it online, is all I recall. Nothing readily verified by an outside source. That as a Chapter, not a Legion, he was the first Master.

 

But then, wouldn't Guilliman be the first Chapter Master? He wasn't taken out until after he broke the Legions, so for a time he was.

Argel Tal as the inquisitions pet project with the Exorcists??????

nyaaah! nyaaaah!

*twirls villianous mustache* dry.png

*Falls to his knees while raising both fists towards an uncaring sky*

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS!

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