miller_gooner Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing. The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot. We then think we’re seeing him in UE but it turns out that the Alpha Legion are disguised as him, so clearly they’ve come across him somewhere, but where the hell is he? Why didn’t Abnett elaborate on what is essentially his own character. Has he bumped into Marius Gage at some point perhaps and has become preoccupied with smashing up some WB's? What are people thoughts regarding where he is and how he’ll next feature… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 much as I'll be sad if it's the case... he may well have been killed my alpha legion :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3520668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I don't think they'd kill him off just like that, I think his outcome will eventually be explained, I wouldn't be surprised if he comes the first chapter master of a successor, like the Novamarines or Genesis Marines etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3520727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miller_gooner Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think he'll defo make a return, I'm just mystified as to why there was no further mention of him in UE. I thought we would have at least got a sniff to hang on to at the end of the book but it seems like we'll get something later on. I think he's defo come into contact with the AL and whilst I hope he's not dead it interesting how they managed to steal Ultra Marine armour and pretend to be him, it cant' be his armour though because his was covered in blood hence the infiltration of WB's on Calth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3520753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 He was Alpha Legion all along! *dramatic music* In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3520760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hence the mission survival record; all the best legionnaires are playing the heroes of the other legions. Despite how epic and grimdark it would be (I <3 Thiel), I really doubt BL will pull K. Loken's T-X on Thiel (no, not the Astartes, the one with the bigger chest). I just can't believe we sold them Sigismund. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3520784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Perhaps the Sigilite recruited him and he will turn up in another audio drama wearing grey ceramite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Jesus Christ, WHY. Not every side character needs go there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Maybe that's the real reason the space marine numbers are so much smaller 'now'. There were still loads, even after all the traitors/deaths, but they're all in cold storage on Titan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosco Toppings Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing. The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot. Censure? Is this yet another limited edition book that I haven't been able to get hold of? :cuss! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing. The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot. Censure? Is this yet another limited edition book that I haven't been able to get hold of? :cuss!Audiodrama I believe. EDIT: Yep. Here it is. http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/censure-mp3.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosco Toppings Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So after Know No Fear, Censure and Unremembered Empire it’s become pretty clear the he (Aenoid Thiel) has become a pivotal character, respected by Guilliman and essentially the start of the red helm tradition in terms of being a good thing. The last we ‘actually’ saw of him was in Censure when he managed to get off Calth and was discussing Imperium Secundus with the transport pilot. Censure? Is this yet another limited edition book that I haven't been able to get hold of? :cuss!Audiodrama I believe. EDIT: Yep. Here it is. http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/censure-mp3.html Thanks. I got 2 or 3 of those but they just seemed a bit short for what they cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Jesus Christ, WHY. Not every side character needs go there. At least Argel Tal and Sheed Ranko are safe from that particular brand of nonsense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 That's what we thought about Loken... Thiel could be pivotal. Personally I want to see Gage back and doing some smashing. Though I've got a feeling he'll have a messy end and the Ultramarines will get betrayed in a devastating trick, yet again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 That's what we thought about Loken... :( I'm going to put my head into a pillow and cry myself to sleep until I have to wake up for work tonight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3521979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Jesus Christ, WHY. Not every side character needs go there. At least Argel Tal and Sheed Ranko are safe from that particular brand of nonsense.I could imagine both in front of Malcador: 'Argel Tal, i want you to become one of my grey knights' 'Yeah I'm cool with that, let me just ask the other guy' 'Errr, what other guy' 'DEMON SMASH' And with Ranko, him and Malcador will be going around for ever. 'I am Malcador', 'No, I am Malcador'.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 A quick search through the Harlequin-held Black Library shows that the words most often uttered by Alpharius, in the order most often used, are "Stop copying me." I seem to remember Gage was mentioned somewhere as the first Chapter Master of the Ultramarines Chapter, following the Heresy and Scouring. I can't think of where I heard that, though, so it's likely I am mistaken. If not, it means Gage might be returning. Since he was not listed as killed, I don't mind if he does. He was lost in the chaos of war. We have no idea if he is dead or not. But likely, he is dead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 A quick search through the Harlequin-held Black Library shows that the words most often uttered by Alpharius, in the order most often used, are "Stop copying me." I seem to remember Gage was mentioned somewhere as the first Chapter Master of the Ultramarines Chapter, following the Heresy and Scouring. I can't think of where I heard that, though, so it's likely I am mistaken. If not, it means Gage might be returning. Since he was not listed as killed, I don't mind if he does. He was lost in the chaos of war. We have no idea if he is dead or not. But likely, he is dead. IIRC, he is list as the "Master of the First Chapter", or "Chapter Master" . But in seriousness, apparently he is also in the Collected Visions on page 165. Maybe there is something said there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Maybe. I actually think it was something stated here by someone, or on one of the wikis. I read it online, is all I recall. Nothing readily verified by an outside source. That as a Chapter, not a Legion, he was the first Master. But then, wouldn't Guilliman be the first Chapter Master? He wasn't taken out until after he broke the Legions, so for a time he was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Nah, he was the Imperial Regent. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Marius Gage is the Protagonist in Macragge's Honour, the 30k graphic novel, chasing Kor Phaeron into the Maeolstrom. Not sure what happens to him in it though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Argel Tal as the inquisitions pet project with the Exorcists?????? nyaaah! nyaaaah! *twirls villianous mustache* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Argel Tal as the inquisitions pet project with the Exorcists?????? nyaaah! nyaaaah! *twirls villianous mustache* *Falls to his knees while raising both fists towards an uncaring sky* EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3522923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Loken, "I'm not dead yet...." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283235-where-is-aeonid-thiel-spoilers/#findComment-3523050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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