GreenMoss Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I was poking around and stumbled on 1st edition painting guide and lo, here was the horrible inescapable truth... We're not even the original Green Marines... It was the Salamanders all along! And I suspect there are those among you who had known about this and kept this terrible secret from your Brothers... Nor will I be surprised if this post and its author suddenly just disappear... http://www.lski.org/pictures/tabletopgaming/gw/Guides%20and%20Catalogs/Games%20Workshop%20-%20Space%20Marines%20-%20Painting%20Guide%20-%201st%20ed.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Of course not, the First Legion wear black! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorDaemon Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Oh whew...thought he meant what was behind the bookshelf....oh, wait...I mean not behind the bookshelf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Sigh... Please proceed to Chamber 42, and sit in the BLACK chair... (to equerry) Ready the neuralizer and see if Ezekial has time in his schedule... It has always been thus brother. We recolored our armor in the distant past as a tribute to verdent Caliban so long ago lost to us.... (or ya know... the studio just thought we looked better in green than the sallies did) http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Angels#.Uo5Jd9K-pwY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Although I'm puzzled why it's news that the Salamanders always wore green, I'm just relieved this isn't another Lionel Johnson / The Dark Angel thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Dont even go there Cactus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Wow...that was a like a homage to the Iwo Jima flag sculpture. That's pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Groan.... Yes, yes it is... The released an updated model of it in 2000... http://www.solegends.com/citle/citle2000/skulz/skulziwojima/ Knockoffs can be found on ebay... Now quit makin me feel old you whippersnappers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 "The Space Wolves take great pride in following the index Astartes to the letter." Wow..how the lore has changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradiel Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 "The Space Wolves take great pride in following the index Astartes to the letter." Wow..how the lore has changed if that was the extent of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunta Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I have one of those rhinos, will have have to clean it up and repaint it Dark Angels. At the moment it is some horrific Blood Red and Chaos black mess as painted by 13 year old me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (or ya know... the studio just thought we looked better in green than the sallies did) There's 2 versions about that IIRC -1 a painter simply messed up and thought he was asked to paint salamanders. Since it was too late to re-paint all the tactical he has already done it was decided to let it like that. 2- it was asked to paint an EPIC DA army. But due to the size of the models, PA units just looked under coated in black, or grey if they tried to put highlights.. So it was decided to paint them in another colour to make them look properly... Don't know which is true... Probably both are wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (or ya know... the studio just thought we looked better in green than the sallies did) There's 2 versions about that IIRC -1 a painter simply messed up and thought he was asked to paint salamanders. Since it was too late to re-paint all the tactical he has already done it was decided to let it like that. 2- it was asked to paint an EPIC DA army. But due to the size of the models, PA units just looked under coated in black, or grey if they tried to put highlights.. So it was decided to paint them in another colour to make them look properly... Don't know which is true... Probably both are wrong... There's a third version that I heard - they got the name on the pot of paint wrong (as in the paints were labelled with the wrong name), and GW went with it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Then there is a fourth theory... Black Armor under a yellow sky made some nice green highlights and the team looked at it and went, "Hey, this dark green almost black looks good... what color do we have that matches it?" Cover of WD 117 and the box for Space Marine (Epic mk II) http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w20/fred40k2002/Dark%20Angels/WD117.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That's the story I remember hearing many years ago (no idea of the source). John Burns painted them with a hint of green and the idea stuck. I tried to find the original painting recently but with no success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 There was a fifth theory too - that the Salamanders icon was too difficult to paint compared to the DA one, so the DA became the 'green army'. I do have an old White Dwarf somewhere with some cool looking black DA on the back. Not sure I have it any more, sadly. But the picture quoted by Brother Dean is also an oft suggested theory. Sallies did use to be dark green - just look at the box art for Battle for Armaggedon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 There's a sixth theory....wait, there is no sixth theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Aaaah the Al Pacino DA ... Well wasn't this painting made AFTER the colour change...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Here's the 7th theory. All the traitor legions changed their heraldry colours. Food for thought brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Here's the 7th theory. All the traitor legions changed their heraldry colours. Food for thought brothers. The Alpha Legion didn't... IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 That is a correct assumption brother.all they do is for the Emperor. Also, I am Alpharius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Very nice to see those old models and that fluff. Thanks for posting it, Mossada. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgoldsmith Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Brings back some memories that. Love the idea that the wolves follow the index astartes more closely than the ultramarines. How things have changed in 25 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Here's the 7th theory. All the traitor legions changed their heraldry colours. Food for thought brothers. So you're saying that the Space Wolves are also traitors? Dunno if it has been retconned yet, but pre-heresy they had a dark grey colour scheme as per IA: 13th Great Company article as well as per C:Eye of Terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I have painted HH era DA in WW2 black green which looks good and they can be used in both 30 and 40K. The wolf's look better in dark grey then they do in baby blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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