The Highlander Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 So I was reading up the rules for terminators for the Legions, and I was wondering if the 40k era termies were around in HH, because it says termie squads can either be in Cataphractii or regular TDA. Any info there? Also, is the Godwyn pattern bolter available heresy era? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 All 3 Terminator armours were active during the GC and HH, as for Godwyn bolters, unsure but iirc Collected Visions does depict them. Cheers, Jono EDIT: GODDAMN AUTOCORRECTED Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I am about to embark upon making a Pride of the Legion army, of pure Terminators myself. As a rule of thumb, I am avoiding Indominus Terminator plate at all costs, and sticking with pure Cataphractii and Tartaros plate. There's no real solid info on when the Indominus came about, but.... it just doesn't jive with the 30K look. Personal preference of course. The Godwyn came into full scale production about the same time as the Mk. VII plate, but I could see a few 'prototype' models running about, here and there. *rereads his post* So, yeah.... I'm no help, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Indomitus was present in the GC/HH, but it was a rarity. If the Godwyn was produced alongside the Mk VII, then it will only feature with the Defenders of Terra as Mk VII began production on Terra after the Schism on Mars and would not become widespread until after the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ask Jes lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ferrus Manus was responsible for pioneering Indominitus Armor. Gorgon Terminators wear it. IIRC it was supposed to bridge the gap between The speed of the tartaros and the protection of cataphractii by using a stronger force field than the tartaros had while keeping its speed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ferrus Manus was responsible for pioneering Indominitus Armor. Gorgon Terminators wear it. IIRC it was supposed to bridge the gap between The speed of the tartaros and the protection of cataphractii by using a stronger force field than the tartaros had while keeping its speed. Yep, this tidbit is in HHmHH: Massacre Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ferrus Manus was responsible for pioneering Indominitus Armor. Gorgon Terminators wear it. IIRC it was supposed to bridge the gap between The speed of the tartaros and the protection of cataphractii by using a stronger force field than the tartaros had while keeping its speed.Yes and no. Pretty dang close though. Ferrus Manus did create the Indomitus. The Gorgons use their own unique pattern-variant of the Indomitus. Instead of field generators, it[Gorgon-Pattern] uses an experimental system that converted incoming electromagnetic and kinetic energy into light-flashes that could incapacitate and maim nearby foes. However, its agility was limited due to heat and electrochemical toxin bleed, which required in users having to undergo a high level cybernetic rebuild to endure, which was no problem for the Tenth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 So...will we see FW make "HH Indomitus pattern"? besides the gorgons of course Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Doubtful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I liked Tyberos the red wakes indomitus because it was almost a mkV version with studs and the snout like helmet that looked cool. If FW makes a squad of those...hoo boy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 That's what my VII Legion commander will be wearing. Basically "Prototype Indominus", in my fluff's eyes. Plus, well.... he's quite the stud.... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 That's what my VII Legion commander will be wearing. Basically "Prototype Indominus", in my fluff's eyes. Plus, well.... he's quite the stud.... That's puntastic! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 He'll be here all week ladies and gentlemen. 1000heathens. "Paradropping to a theater near you" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 "I just flew in from Terra, and boy, are my arms tired from holding slip for 100 meters in full rattle into the rocky, frozen ground." Yeah. I wouldn't make a very good comedian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 "I just flew in from Terra, and boy, are my arms tired from holding slip for 100 meters in full rattle into the rocky, frozen ground." Yeah. I wouldn't make a very good comedian. Im sure there would be alot of Irony coming from a IV legion comedian.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Sangha Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 ^^^ da dum dum tttssshhh!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Heathens on stage holding an imperial fist skull.... Hang on he's a loyalist again so it would be an iron warriors.... But but but what's going on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Heathens on stage holding an imperial fist skull.... Hang on he's a loyalist again so it would be an iron warriors.... But but but what's going on You have just entered, The Alpharius Zone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 .... *everywhere* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 A few page references..... Godwyn Pattern bolter - Betrayal P126 - a nice picture of 3 marines carrying Godwyn Pattern bolters. Anvilus Pattern Backpacks (you know, the 40K Chaos Marine ones) - Betrayal P131 - listed as a prototype Indomitus Terminator Armour - Betrayal P237 - lists 3 variants of TDA (Cata, Tartaros, Indom) as all being available during the latter part of the Crusade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 A few page references..... Godwyn Pattern bolter - Betrayal P126 - a nice picture of 3 marines carrying Godwyn Pattern bolters. Anvilus Pattern Backpacks (you know, the 40K Chaos Marine ones) - Betrayal P131 - listed as a prototype Indomitus Terminator Armour - Betrayal P237 - lists 3 variants of TDA (Cata, Tartaros, Indom) as all being available during the latter part of the Crusade Four variants, actually. Specifically, "Several different Terminator armour patterns were developed roughly concurrently by different Forge Worlds during the later decades of the Great Crusade, including Indomitus, Tartaros, and Saturnine patterns, most of which were functionally identical." That, plus Cataphractii gives us four, then add in Gorgon-pattern from Book 2 and you're up to five. Anyone have an idea what Saturnine pattern Terminator armour looks like? X3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Nope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 My guess (and I stress guess) is that Saturnine pattern is/was/will be the egg shell shoulder design. Check out Dark Rage's excellent scratch build here or my own rather uninspiring painting of the original model here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Or Greyall's drawing here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283767-legion-equipment-armour-and-other-pedantics/#findComment-3530780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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