Morticon Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Heya guys, just wanted to report back on a local ranked tourney I played in this weekend. It was an escalation themed event - 6 games all from the book (missions 1-6 in that order). Game 1 was 1850, then 1000, then 1500, 1500 followed by 1850 and finally another 1850. I decided to try something different as people are getting sick of my BA :p I took a quirky, fast and hard hitting list: 1000point CORE HQ: Librarian (WL) – Bike, Auspex, Force Axe, Level 2 - 5x Raven Wing Command Squad – Grenade Launcher, Apothecary, Champion TROOP: 5x Tactical Squad Razorback – TLAC 5x Tactical Squad Razorback – TLLC FAST: 4x Hyperios Launchers 5x Black Knights – Grenade Launcher 500point HQ: Librarian (WL) – Bike, Force Axe, Level 2, Melta Bomb 5x Raven Wing Command Squad – Grenade Launcher, Apothecary TROOP: 5x Tactical Squad Razorback – TLAC 350point TROOP: 5x Tactical Squad – Melta Gun Razorback – TLAC FAST ATTACK 4x Raven Wing Bikers – 2x Melta Guns, 1x Cmbi Melta + 1x Attack Bike – MultiMelta I played against DE, Orks, Chaos, Grey Knights, Sisters,Eldar - really nice spread. I ended up with a 4-2-0 overall, and placed 4th. I lost to DE - who had venom spam, got first turn, and took down about 8 knights off the bat ><; I also lost to Sisters who had an incredible list and played it smartly! The knights were just insane, theyre one of the coolest units in the game in my opinion -especially the command ones with FNP. LVL2 libbies supporting and buffing them with div powers is also great. Im thinking of including them in my core BA. The grenade/plasma talon combo is sooo nice for daemons and taking out hounds/screamers and other high wound units. I came up against a Dual dreadknight list- nailed it, and also a triple Wraith Knight list!! Also took them down thanks to the libbies and Black Knights! Sadly I didnt take pics, so wont do batreps! But just thought i'd share. Please feel free to ask any questions and i'll elaborate where i can :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I'm sorta curious what the SoB List was. Been a while since I've seen a well executed SoB army (or any SoB army at all). Also, how exactly did he manage to take out 8 knights that fast, was there a lack of terrain= Anyway, GZ on a solid W:L ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 I'm sorta curious what the SoB List was. Been a while since I've seen a well executed SoB army (or any SoB army at all). Also, how exactly did he manage to take out 8 knights that fast, was there a lack of terrain= Anyway, GZ on a solid W:L ratio. Ahoy! Thanks. SoB was this: Celestine WhiteScar Blinged Lord -bike, eternal shield, hammer, arty armour. Techmarine on bike 5x Bikers 3x5battle sisters- hvy flamer or melta and condemnor bolter in Immolators - TLMM 3x5 Dominions - 4x meltas in Immolators - TLMM 3x Excorcists The DE player was rocking venom spam so the amount of saves I had to make was nuts - negating the bikes Toughness was also a thing. He had 12" movement too, and I didnt have enough fully blocking LOS terrain to keep the bikers safe. Also got a little unlucky with saves and FNP :( making none of the FNPs and failing 50% of the saves. Then, because I hadn't moved yet, the ravager shots also hurt a bit! ><; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Ah, well, that's tough luck I suppose. Maybe try pure Ravenwing next time? I heard they are doing fairly well. Personally, I am not a big friend of MSU units in RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Ah, well, that's tough luck I suppose. Maybe try pure Ravenwing next time? I heard they are doing fairly well. Personally, I am not a big friend of MSU units in RB. Its my BA side coming through! Heheheh- though, the lack of fast razors made a diff ><; Pure RW are defs stronger- just didnt have the models - also wanted dual libby build- so all tough stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Congrats on the 4th placing. Nice to see you having success with the DA. Just out of interest - what did the GK player bring to the table? Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Mort first off I can't get over being stunned at you playing DA. Never thought it would happen. Personally all I have played is Ravenwing. It took me a fair amount of games of getting my butt handed to me before I got the gist of it. And now I've won probably my last... 10 games or so. I find it must be VERY focused. VERY VERY focused. Dakka Standard is crucial to make up for lost numbers imo. The Knights are indeed incredible. Learning to use Rad Grenades is paramount as well. For instance, someone was trying that B.S. Corbulo trick on me.... landed a pile of guys on me and put Corbulo in front... but I know this trick, so I hit the fart with a rad grenade and toasted him with a Plasma Talon.... you should have seen the look on the guy's face. He was getting ready to roll 40++ dice and it didn't go his way! Now the regular people that play me target my Knights first. Some in fact hate the way I use them so much they will literally ignore almost all of my army until they are dead, or nearly dead. Get used to this! Personally aside from Dakka Standard I am a huge fan of the Shroud with Skilled Rider/Jink etc. Sure a Helldrake completely eats it for breakfast but you can't have it all. Personally I have become bored of the pure Ravenwing though. Once you learn the army it feels very... autopilot to me, even with wins it gets old very fast. I'm moving more towards Deathwing which most seem to have trouble winning with.... we'll see. Congrats on 4th place! That's really great for your first time out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Congrats on the 4th placing. Nice to see you having success with the DA. Just out of interest - what did the GK player bring to the table? Cheers I Thanks dude! From memory the 1500 GK list was: Corteaz, Inq in term armour, skulls, psycannon, hammer. 2x 6 Man henchmen - 1xbanisher,1xMG?,4x crusaders in Psybolt Razors 1x 10man henchmen- crusaders, plasma gunners, 3plasmacannons. in Chimera 2x DreadKnights - swords, flamers, personal teleporters 1x Vindicare 1x Psyfleman dread Im not sure what extra was in his 1850 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Mort first off I can't get over being stunned at you playing DA. Never thought it would happen. . Hahahahah! Prot- small secret- ive been a long time fan of the DA. Got the last (5th ed) codex too when it came out, and was bitterly disappointed when the SM dex was released after that essentially relegating it. Since the new DA book came out, ive been playing with DA allies quite often. They work really nicely with the Blood Angels. Ya, the rad grenades are increds - used them on various places to pop various guys- the Uber-tarch of the Eldar, the DreadKnights obviously, and everything else in between! I'll almost defs have the Libby+ BK command in any DA ally list I run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Interesting. I am (sadly) still yet to play a game with the new book, but I have some Black Knights primed and ready to be painted. Given everything I've heard about them, I am looking forward to using them. Sounds like they are a key component of a Ravenwing force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Gilly, they do a lot of heavy lifting. 4 attacks on the charge with S5 rending hammers- ya! A command squad can get two characters in it meaning you can soak up loads of attacks. With a libby in the mix there, you can give them a 4++ and then the FNP gives the 5+ and you have a really cool character for challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Interesting. I am (sadly) still yet to play a game with the new book, but I have some Black Knights primed and ready to be painted. Given everything I've heard about them, I am looking forward to using them. Sounds like they are a key component of a Ravenwing force. Oh they are. My regular opponents target them first now every time....kinda annoying. To add to Mort's testimony, I would add Hit and Run keeps them a double threat.... plasma-ing their way back into CC if necessary. They even do 'ok' as anti-air for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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