Roma Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 If I was to use a 1500p list consisting of 4 units: 6 terminators units with a psycannon, each unit with a ordo malleus inquisitor, terminator armour, psycannon, psyker Would I have a sufficient threat range? Could I expect the units to move up the board, Prevent enemy units from reaching home objectives by shooting, and camp the enemy objectives (while still preventing them reaching my own)? Kinda like a walking net... Or is 24 inches just too short? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Ask any Deathwing player and they will tell you that footslogging terminators lack sufficient mobility. That's one reason why the cyclone missile launcher is so popular. 24" range is sufficient for some units but if that's the maximum range of all your firepower I think you'll struggle to threaten everything you need to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3530550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropped my axe Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 if you were vs necrons or an army that has similar range maybe but in general no, necrons can do it if they take advantage of all their rules but foot slogging small GK units against IG tau etc...... nope not even SM, grav gun bikes will take you apart was there a specific list your going up against or is this just a general list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3530556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roma Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 if you were vs necrons or an army that has similar range maybe but in general no, necrons can do it if they take advantage of all their rules but foot slogging small GK units against IG tau etc...... nope not even SM, grav gun bikes will take you apart was there a specific list your going up against or is this just a general list? Just a general one. Deepstriking on servo skulls is a possibility when neccesary, btw. But yeah I guessed its too slow... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3530562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropped my axe Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 problem with deep striking will be the limited stuff on the table turn one, and i for one never roll well when i really need those reserves to come on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3530566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 When Tau are blowing you apart from 30+ inches, you'll receive the answer to your questions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3531155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Terrain, terrain, terrain... On planet bowling ball, it is indeed too short. I have long argued though, that the Inquisition (and the Grey Knights by extension) are not and have never been designed for open field warfare. That is the province of the IG. Utilize cover, kill pockets/kill zones, line of sight, deep striking, reinforcements/scouts, etc. Their gun with a range of 6 or 8 feet doesn't matter if it doesn't have LoS to it's target. It's not as easy as planet bowling ball and longer range weapons, it's a different mentality and playstyle. Their guns may outrange you, but the table really isn't that big. Control where and when you are exposed and utilize cover and line of sight and you can do just fine. Don't try to get into a long range slugging match with Tau or Guard, you aren't equipped for it. You are totally equipped to eat their face in a short to moderate range battle however :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3531194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Except terrain doesn't play along when you need it to play along the most. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3531203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Set up the objectives accordingly. Remember you don't have to contest or take them all, sometimes you're better off not bothering for one of them and letting the opponent have it. You have to pick where and when you fight, and the game starts as soon as you start picking table edges and placing terrain. The threat range of psycannons and stormbolters is just fine if you adjust your style to suit :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3531227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropped my axe Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Just watch out for tau smart missiles..... And tau in general also drakes and demon princes vector striking..... I might be venting about recent games Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3531235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Nicole has the right of it. There are many things ever it isn't worth pushing the fight all the way to his lines, if holding the center or a particularly objective- rich area will win you the day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3531236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roma Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 The image certainly came to my head. But relying on terrain is something I seriously hate, sometimes you just don't get the terrain you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3532343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 It's annoying but 24" isn't that short. Aggressive deployment, 'Scout' moves via 'TGS', Deepstriking off beacons...there are ways to quickly get in range. Not to mention Ravens dropping you into the enemy's face as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283782-is-a-psyassault-cannon-terminators-threat-range-sufficient/#findComment-3533463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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