Wolf Lord Wodan Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Technically this is in compliance with the rules, but do you think it's a cheap move? Ragnar Blackmanes war gear Power armour Bolt pistol Wolf tooth necklace Wolf tail talisman Frost blade Melta bombs Frag and krak Warrior born WGBL Runic armour Storm shield Wolf tooth necklace Wolf tail talisman Frost axe Melta bombs Frag and krak Warrior born My thinking is how can you get promoted to WGBL without earning the right to wear the necklace and the talisman. They are prevalent among all of the HQ choices. All of my packs have a pack leader carrying Melta bombs. Lastly, any warrior trained and groomed by Blackmane would fight as his liege lord has trained him to, hence the warrior born. What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 What is your question? Can you run these two together? Answer is yes you can. You can run a unique IC and a homemade IC without regard to the unique gear setup rule. You cannot run two homebrewed ICs of the same type with the same gear. Very stupid rule which invites remedial abuse, IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Wodan Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 I had somebody tell me it was a cheap move and I wanted to run it by my wolf brothers. I see nothing wrong with it, just some butthurt feelings from across the table Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif-thunderstand Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Since your WGBL was trained by Ragnar in person ,reasoned to his mentality or talents...etc. , I think this fits. This is maybe exactly why this rules are made so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Cheap move????? The WGBL is clocking 200 pts ball park. You should point out the costs of some of the other HQ's in the 6ed codex line up. We are an army of heroes. I sense someone is calling it a cheap move 'cause they are jealous. That set up is fine. Go cut some threads Brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Wodan Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thanks brothers, I will continue to mock our enemies failures Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 After sinking that many points into one pack, it's really a far cry from 'cheap'... Sounds like somebody's bottom is a little ouchie because you kicked it. Hard. I like the idea that the WGBL was a pupil. Good stuff !! What is your delivery method?? Landraider?? It looks like an absolute blast to play!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 When someone calls a cheap move, you are fully within your rights to pick up the nearest riptide, hellturkey or xv, and smash it over his head. Everyone plays to win. Armies that don't leverage their strongest aspects belong in display case in the 6th edition. This goes double for PA-based armies since we are now at the bottom of the heap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Wodan Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 I have 5 packs of grey hunters, led by either WGBL, Ulrik, and pack leaders who drop pod in. I have Ragnar with a bunch of blood claws in a land raider, Njal with some terminators in a redeemer, another empty redeemer, long fangs and scouts with sniper rifles to pull local security for the long fangs or to pin down enemy hq, pop some armour and die. All depends on how they come in. I stick to fluff as much as I can. Every pack has a leader, Ulrik is their to see if my WGBL will be ready to become a wolf lord when the young king becomes the high king, Njal is there as a rep from the 6th company to evaluate when Ragnar is ready to assume command so on and so forth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3534953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 From the FAQ: "Q: Can you clarify how The Leaders of the Pack works exactly? (p81) A: The rules for selecting Sagas are detailed on page 64. As for wargear, no two HQ characters, including Special Characters, may have the exact same wargear and Weapons, even if they are different HQ units. Note that Fenrisian Wolves bought as wargear are included in this check, so if you had two otherwise identical Wolf Guard Battle Leaders, save that one has one Fenrisian Wolf and the other has two, then you are technically obeying this rule just fine. For the record, the intent of the rule is that you should field characterful and diverse heroes in your army, not identical clones with but an extra melta bomb to set them apart. Though we cannot really enforce players to embrace this attitude, the Codex does try to encourage it wherever possible." Your two characters do not have the same wargear, so you're good to go. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3535086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Check page 81 of our codex. You duo may not work. While they have different war gear they have the same saga. No two characters may have the same saga. I thought there was an exemption for playing your own WL/WGBL next to a codex character but am not finding it at moment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3535159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Check page 81 of our codex. You duo may not work. While they have different war gear they have the same saga. No two characters may have the same saga. I thought there was an exemption for playing your own WL/WGBL next to a codex character but am not finding it at moment Codex page 64, left column, about center: special characters are exempt from the restriction on no two characters bearing the same Saga; so it'd be okay for Ragnar plus the Battle Leader to both have Warriorborn. It wouldn't be okay for a generic Wolf Lord and Battle Leader to both have the same Saga. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3535267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thank you Valerian. I knew I'd read it somewhere but couldn't find it. Allergies kicking my tail today making it hard to read or focus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3535313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Wodan Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Since your WGBL was trained by Ragnar in person ,reasoned to his mentality or talents...etc. , I think this fits. This is maybe exactly why this rules are made so. I figured that is why each slot allows you to take two instead of just saying we can take 4. These two warriors master and pupil fulfill that hq choice. I know it doesn't say that anywhere, just my interpretation of the fluff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3535324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif-thunderstand Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 That alows you to take your WL and his aprentice as one slot where runepriest and wolfpriest are one slot. ...Like RiftBlade sayd : we are an army of heroes. ( and thats exactly what codex says to exactly this rule) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3535431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I have 5 packs of grey hunters, led by either WGBL, Ulrik, and pack leaders who drop pod in. I have Ragnar with a bunch of blood claws in a land raider, Njal with some terminators in a redeemer, another empty redeemer, long fangs and scouts with sniper rifles to pull local security for the long fangs or to pin down enemy hq, pop some armour and die. All depends on how they come in. I stick to fluff as much as I can. Every pack has a leader, Ulrik is their to see if my WGBL will be ready to become a wolf lord when the young king becomes the high king, Njal is there as a rep from the 6th company to evaluate when Ragnar is ready to assume command so on and so forth good lord that is a character heavy list!!! properly fluffy, nice one. no way can someone complain about that when you must be spending 800 odd points on characters alone! (ie your obvious going for fluff characters, not a hyper competitive spam list) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284001-leaders-of-the-pack-question/#findComment-3535477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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