depthcharge12 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Lol you might want to hide that from the mods haha dont worry Jeff has already sought out his unloving maker to create a wife for him so he stops his vengeance cycle. Lorgars still afraid that jeff will get a divorce though, so hes still hiding from him...and writing the next GnR album :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3537034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Okay I'm done with Jeff :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3537039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Bjorn becomes the the first great wolf lord and about 100 years or so he gets mortally wound on a quest to find Russ The reason he is called bjorn the fell handed was because in the fall of propero he killed a thousand but the warrior said a spell or did somthing that made bjorn hand going infected with something and it kept getting worse so Constantin Valdor cut it off and saved his life Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3537104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Bjorn becomes the the first great wolf lord and about 100 years or so he gets mortally wound on a quest to find Russ The reason he is called bjorn the fell handed was because in the fall of propero he killed a thousand but the warrior said a spell or did somthing that made bjorn hand going infected with something and it kept getting worse so Constantin Valdor cut it off and saved his life That's pretty much been thrown in the trash now. He does indeed lose his arm but, well, read Prospero Burns for the current version Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3537201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yup the new version is MUCH more fun :p Imagine a 4-way, Amit, Khan, Lucius and Sevatar - no rules/boundaries - last man standing wins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3537234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yup the new version is MUCH more fun :p Imagine a 4-way, Amit, Khan, Lucius and Sevatar - no rules/boundaries - last man standing wins. It would be a three way bout with Lucius whining about something before Amit or Khârn behead him. Then Amit and Khârn battle it out till one remains. Likely Khârn. As Khârn is about to find new enemies he realizes that it was actually a 4 way rumble and Sevatar swoops down and guts him. Shouting "tadaaaaas" ...or whispering it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3537335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why does this remind me so much of a rugby match my brother played in Afghan - it was Ghurkas + British Inf vs US Marines + British Marines... Aparently it was more violent than 6 months in Sangin... but very off topic :p I've not read much of the heresy but I'd love to see Corswain vs Sigismund or Bjorn vs Raldoran - I find the loyalist vs traitor fights (even pre-heresy outbreak) a little of the same, however loyalist vs loyalist rarely seems to happen - plus it'd be funny to see Corswain gut Sigismund who then beheads him on the return - or Bjorn (who favoured a lightning claw if memory serves) take Raldorans arm off but lose his own... Ahh perhaps I wish for too much :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3537369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Corswain vs any well known/feared night lord i mean I know the night lords are mostly criminals but there should at least one who loves curze like a father and would want revenge on corswain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3538371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Amit vs Khârn Future flesh tearer vs future betrayer Fitting I think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3538377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Wasn't Bjorns hand cut off by the Remembrancer? He wasn't technically a Rememberancer, but yeah. Hawser cut off Bjorn's hand to stop warp taint from consuming his body. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3542768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 Well based on the rules in Massacre. FW seem to love Sevatar based on the WS and I values they gave him. Same WS as Khârn but +1 I. We will see what they do with Sigismund, but if they are keeping true to the story line, he should be at least the same stats as Sevatar if not better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Nah, Siggy just needs a special rule "THAT'S DISHONORABLE! YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED!" that's triggered whenever he takes a wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Why does this remind me so much of a rugby match my brother played in Afghan - it was Ghurkas + British Inf vs US Marines + British Marines... Aparently it was more violent than 6 months in Sangin... but very off topic Dude, that's not Rugby. That's a mosh pit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Maybe you should read "Prince of Crows" one more time. Sevatar disqualified himself. Sigismund just laughed at him. Didn't say a word. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have nothing of real value to add to this discussion. I just need to say that the original title of this topic ("Who Kills Who?") was killing me and my grammar OCD. I have, therefore, modified the title so that it is grammatically correct (or at least less grammatically incorrect ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Why does this remind me so much of a rugby match my brother played in Afghan - it was Ghurkas + British Inf vs US Marines + British Marines... Aparently it was more violent than 6 months in Sangin... but very off topic Dude, that's not Rugby. That's a mosh pit. That's not a mosh pit, that's Sparta! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Maybe you should read "Prince of Crows" one more time. Sevatar disqualified himself. Sigismund just laughed at him. Didn't say a word. Yes and? It doesn't change the fact that he only held Sevatar to a draw when both fighters held to some sort of elegant fancy dan honorable swordsmen are we rule set. If they'd been duelling aboard Conqueror (where the first rule is, we don't talk about the fighting pits. The second rule is, we don't talk about the fighting pits...) I imagine the outcome would have been a bit different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 it doesn't say where the duel took place. It only says Sigismund was "the only warrior ever to beat him to a deadlock in over a hundred years of warfare" . Hundreds of warriors from both legions looked on. So regardless of where the battle takes place, the outcome is presumed to be the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have nothing of real value to add to this discussion. I just need to say that the original title of this topic ("Who Kills Who?") was killing me and my grammar OCD. I have, therefore, modified the title so that it is grammatically correct (or at least less grammatically incorrect ). It was a reference to Tex Avery's Classic Cartoon short based on the old whodunit parody. "who killed who" 1943 Sorry it was a bit cheesy I know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 it doesn't say where the duel took place. It only says Sigismund was "the only warrior ever to beat him to a deadlock in over a hundred years of warfare" . Hundreds of warriors from both legions looked on. So regardless of where the battle takes place, the outcome is presumed to be the same. You really think fighting under a rule set where spitting in someone's face, punching them...pretty much anything except pulling out a bolt pistol and shooting them mid fight is allowed instead of Sigismund's "Verily, thou art disqualified for thy unsportsmanlike headbutt" rules wouldn't change anything? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 it doesn't say where the duel took place. It only says Sigismund was "the only warrior ever to beat him to a deadlock in over a hundred years of warfare" . Hundreds of warriors from both legions looked on. So regardless of where the battle takes place, the outcome is presumed to be the same. You really think fighting under a rule set where spitting in someone's face, punching them...pretty much anything except pulling out a bolt pistol and shooting them mid fight is allowed instead of Sigismund's "Verily, thou art disqualified for thy unsportsmanlike headbutt" rules wouldn't change anything? You are implying that they are Sigismund's rules. That is the only point of contention I have with what you are saying. Sigismund didn't stop the duel and say " hey you head butted me your disqualified" It specifically states that Sevatar disqualified himself! I can't imagine that at the gates of Terra when Sigismund defeated over 2 dozen Traitor Champions, that they were all "honorable duels" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm just saying there's a difference in fighting Sevatar under the Code Duello or whatever other rule set the Sigismund duel was under, and taking him on No Holds Barred. Like taking on an MMA fighter in a boxing match vs taking him on in MMA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm just saying there's a difference in fighting Sevatar under the Code Duello or whatever other rule set the Sigismund duel was under, and taking him on No Holds Barred. Like taking on an MMA fighter in a boxing match vs taking him on in MMA. Agreed.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 And one on one is different to 30 night lords taking on the emperors champion. More realistic fight at the gates of terra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I always thought Khârn falling to Sigismund was fact? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/3/#findComment-3543390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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