Kol Saresk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I always thought Khârn falling to Sigismund was fact? If by fact you mean popularized fan theory, then yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Burn!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 o.0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Well, considering the fact that Khârn was found "dead" on a pile of dead loyalists, maybe Sigismund needed like twenty Astartes to help him bring down Khârn. Or maybe Sigismund will get the infamous "Lucius treatment", and will end up being defeated and killed by the first nameless dude he comes by. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Well, considering the fact that Khârn was found "dead" on a pile of dead loyalists, maybe Sigismund needed like twenty Astartes to help him bring down Khârn. Or maybe Sigismund will get the infamous "Lucius treatment", and will end up being defeated and killed by the first nameless dude he comes by. Nah. See what'll happen is that Sevatar walks by and twenty Loyalists die. And then up on the wall above, Sigismund will challenge Khârn to a duel. Before the Betrayer can reply, Bobby Jo of the Sons of Horus will shoot Siggy and instead shoot the rockrete at his feet. After which a small fragment will embed itself in Khârn's brain, killing him instantly. And from there, he falls and lands on the pile of bodies. It's a fail so epic that Hell itself spat him back out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Well, considering the fact that Khârn was found "dead" on a pile of dead loyalists, maybe Sigismund needed like twenty Astartes to help him bring down Khârn. Or maybe Sigismund will get the infamous "Lucius treatment", and will end up being defeated and killed by the first nameless dude he comes by. Nah. See what'll happen is that Sevatar walks by and twenty Loyalists die. And then up on the wall above, Sigismund will challenge Khârn to a duel. Before the Betrayer can reply, Bobby Jo of the Sons of Horus will shoot Siggy and instead shoot the rockrete at his feet. After which a small fragment will embed itself in Khârn's brain, killing him instantly. And from there, he falls and lands on the pile of bodies. It's a fail so epic that Hell itself spat him back out. Is that before or after Lucius stabs himself with his own sword, achieving his first victory ever ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Before. See on the way down, Khârn will knock loose a gargoyle that the Imperial Fists missed. It'll land next to Lucius, scaring him so bad that he jumps on his on sword, which he counts as a victory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Aww, I was hoping for something more dramatic. Like Lucius jumping out of his Dreadclaw, stabbing himself while landing on the ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 *insert amazed faces and voice* Holy Cow... You guys should write the battle of Terra :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 *insert amazed faces and voice* Holy Cow... You guys should write the battle of Terra :p Yeah, me and VesperVesper and I can do the POVs while Wade does the narrative. Yes, its all coming together now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Then, he would wake up at the EC landing zone, on a bed with Fabius nearby. That was awesome ! said Lucius. - Yeah, whatever, now our thing is running after imperial citizens, far from the Palace, ya know. - Amazing ! replied Lucius. Two hours later, Lucius kills himself, falling on his sword while running after innocent civils. As the blood spills from his wound, his vision fades to black. As he's opening his eyes, he realizes he's on the same bed as before, with Fabius still around. Whoa Fabius, I keep killing stuff with my sword, let me tell you ! - Sounds great, yeah. Replied Fabius, jaded to the max. - Where to now ? Asked Lucius while jumping off the bed, landing right on the tip of his sword, killing himself in the process. - To hell with all this crap ! noted Fabius before getting in his ship and leaving Terra forever. Edit : we should stop here, I don't want to be held responsible for the "Lucius the Eternal Failure" meme, I would like to let that honor to the BL authors who spend their time making him look bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 "Battle of Terra When the Horus Heresy finally culminated at the Siege of the Imperial Palace during the Battle of Terra, Khârn was at the forefront of every assault made by the World Eaters. At the moment of Horus' defeat, Khârn already lay dead upon the mound of Traitor Marine corpses piled high before the walls of the Inner Palace. His fellow World Eaters carried his corpse away with them as they fought their way back to their landing ships. Once on board, they discovered that by some dark miracle of the Blood God Khârn still lived. Whether Khorne himself breathed life back into the Berserker's body or whether the relentless clamour of battle revived his blood-lusting spirit remains a mystery, but since the Heresy Khârn has survived the bloodiest battles across ten millennia and has never come so close to death again. Khârn vowed that the sons of Angron would never again know defeat, for he would not allow it. Their foes would fall, or they would offer themselves to Khorne in their stead. " From the wiki... I know I read somewhere that he fell at the very end of the siege. It never said how, but if Sigismund doesn't kill him then the writers would have missed a huge story climax. I don't think there is a 40k fan alive that would be able to put the book down during those pages. I wrote this a while ago.... I hope it goes something like this. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281784-sigismund-at-terra/?p=3492887 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 At the moment of Horus' defeat, Khârn already lay dead upon the mound of Traitor Marine corpses piled high before the walls of the Inner Palace. Uh... The 2nd Edition, 3rd Edition and 6th Edition Chaos Codices all only neutrally describe it as a "mound of corpses". However, the 3.5 Codex Chaos described the scene thusly: "Khârn fell atop a mound of his victims in one of the breaches just as Horus was defeated." Where you and I would likely take that as meaning "loyalist corpses" the author of the wiki entry probably assumed that those would be traitor corpses, since Khârn is the "Betrayer" and is notorious for killing his own guys and all that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Nah, that's a pile of Luciuses. He never revives in his original body, so there were always problems like where he would trip over his own corpse and land on his sword. Seven of them were after Khârn's death. He kept pausing to say hi, only to stumble onto his sword when the pile would shift under his weight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 I agree that the HH authors have a real chance at some epic battle scenes. I really hope the Pit some of the main Characters in some one on one battle action. Maybe Corswain catches up with Sevatar before Terra. Sigismund and Khârn face off in a final epic one on one after carving thier way through countless foes. I hope they give us some of those scenes and not just Primarchs tearing through Marines and throwing tanks and titans around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Nah, that's a pile of Luciuses. He never revives in his original body, so there were always problems like where he would trip over his own corpse and land on his sword. Seven of them were after Khârn's death. He kept pausing to say hi, only to stumble onto his sword when the pile would shift under his weight. *ahem* Angel Exterminatus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 See, the issue is you know Sigismund isn't going to die. He goes on to found the Black Templars. Unless they make it a twist and Black Templars were founded in his memory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Nah, that's a pile of Luciuses. He never revives in his original body, so there were always problems like where he would trip over his own corpse and land on his sword. Seven of them were after Khârn's death. He kept pausing to say hi, only to stumble onto his sword when the pile would shift under his weight. *ahem* Angel Exterminatus What about it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 "Nah, that's a pile of Luciuses. He never revives in his original body" Angel Exterminatus. Lucius scars the crap out of Fabius when his body reanimates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Oh. I thought you were trying to say something else. In that case: Yes, Kol. What I was saying was based off of an improper understanding of canon facts to make a now invalid point. I was not making stuff up at the top of my head to deliver a joke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hey, they don't call me Joykill for nothing. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284054-who-kills-whom/page/4/#findComment-3543962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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