Rasclomalum Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Howdy. Painting an Emperor's Children army, going for a warband that has retained its pre-heresy colours (purple armour, gold trim, green eyes, white pauldrons, wristguards and shinguards). Bolters and other weapons will probably be metal and green. Anyway, I haven't really seen any standard way of depicting Aspiring Champions, Noise Champions and the like. I guess that most of the time, these dudes go helmetless, but the thought of a warrior entering a battlefield without power armour protection on his head sometimes irks me. I thus consider following the words of the Insignium Astartes and give regular grunts purple helmets, Aspiring Champions red helmets, veterans such as Noise Marines white helmets and veteran sergeants such as Noise Champions red helmets with white stripes. All HQ will have white helmets as well. I guess I just want to hear how other people mark their Chaos squad leaders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Chosen dudes. Either those from Dark Vengeance or those blister pack ones. Champs are usually more badass and mostly older, thus that ancient baroque look with maws opening all over the armour and daemons taking it over looks very fitting for a warrior favoured but the gods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaeken Templaris Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 +1 for using chosen. with them being stupidly over costed for what they bring to the table i use my dark vengeance chosen minis as my champs. whack them in a scenic base and they look kick ass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I agree with the chaps above... Another option for marking them out is to perhaps use much older marks of armour than the rest of their squad mates? You can also try the Roman-style helmet crests too (which seem very capricious in a Chaos army, and therefore in keeping not only with the Legion aesthetic, but also with the EC in particular). Lastly, you can try inverting part of the colour scheme - for instance invert the shoulder pads. This is easy and cheap to do, stands out, and stays with your colour scheme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I thus consider following the words of the Insignium Astartes and give regular grunts purple helmets, Aspiring Champions red helmets, veterans such as Noise Marines white helmets and veteran sergeants such as Noise Champions red helmets with white stripes. All HQ will have white helmets as well. If you don't mind the crit (and haven't already done it! ), I wouldn't go with this idea. From a fluff viewpoint it doesn't make sense for an EC force (or any Chaos Legion) to use those markings as they are from the Codex, date to after the Heresy and wouldn't have been used by any of the Traitors. +1 to the Chosen minis, or if using regular CSM/Raptors just paint them with more bling, gold looks nice on EC? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 A tried and tested way is to just stick more spikes on them! I built my Chaos squads with a lot of possessed parts, and one of my champions was almost fully possessed to represent his greater favour. I gave another several trophies - a Blood Angel's relic blade and a captain's Iron Halo. Try to make sure they have unique or unusual heads - it's a good way to give them a 'face' and character. Wargear can go a long way too. Plasma Pistols and Power Fists instantly make a model look powerful. A good pose works wonders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasclomalum Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Chosen dudes. Either those from Dark Vengeance or those blister pack ones. Champs are usually more badass and mostly older, thus that ancient baroque look with maws opening all over the armour and daemons taking it over looks very fitting for a warrior favoured but the gods.What blister pack? There is a pack of chosen somewhere? I unfortunately destroyed my DV chosen by being an incredibly terrible painter a year ago. I have since improved, but the drybrushed monstrosities with gloops of paint obscuring any and all detail shall not be fielded! :-p +1 for using chosen. with them being stupidly over costed for what they bring to the table i use my dark vengeance chosen minis as my champs. whack them in a scenic base and they look kick ass.Good choice, apart from the two bolter chosen they have disastrous wargear options however. I agree with the chaps above... Another option for marking them out is to perhaps use much older marks of armour than the rest of their squad mates? You can also try the Roman-style helmet crests too (which seem very capricious in a Chaos army, and therefore in keeping not only with the Legion aesthetic, but also with the EC in particular). Lastly, you can try inverting part of the colour scheme - for instance invert the shoulder pads. This is easy and cheap to do, stands out, and stays with your colour scheme. Good point about the colour inversion. Also, crests, laurels and the like is the reason I've looked to Sternguard veterans for champions. Togas, laurels and stuff, just sprinkle a touch of chaos here and there and they're squarely EC. If you don't mind the crit (and haven't already done it! ), I wouldn't go with this idea. From a fluff viewpoint it doesn't make sense for an EC force (or any Chaos Legion) to use those markings as they are from the Codex, date to after the Heresy and wouldn't have been used by any of the Traitors.I know, could be justified fluffwise by having my warband be composed of mainly post-heresy recruits though. Heck, 10,000 years of attrition combined with loyalist marines occasionally leaving the straight and narrow ought to have seen to that. But yes, it is a very fair point you're making. A tried and tested way is to just stick more spikes on them! I built my Chaos squads with a lot of possessed parts, and one of my champions was almost fully possessed to represent his greater favour. I gave another several trophies - a Blood Angel's relic blade and a captain's Iron Halo. Try to make sure they have unique or unusual heads - it's a good way to give them a 'face' and character. Wargear can go a long way too. Plasma Pistols and Power Fists instantly make a model look powerful. A good pose works wonders. Not too keen on making them too demonic actually - it just doesn't fit my idea of the EC. Oh, I will use possessed bits here and there and add a mutation or two but tricephalic urotsukidoji wannabe gribblies going on spawnhood feels more like Word Bearers territory, the obvious connection between Slaanesh and tentacles be damned. ... ... okay, there will be some tentacles. Anyway, I'll make them look regal, and I will probably still demarcate rank by helmet colour. Perhaps something like this: HQ: White helmets, gold and purple bling. Veteran Sergeants: White helmets, gold bling. Veterans: White helmets, steel bling. Sergeants: Purple helmets, gold bling. Grunts: Purple helmets, steel bling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 How do you do your Aspiring Champions? Mine are done with Chosen, Possessed parts, trophy spikes and extra bits on the base. Possessed backpacks are perfect for aspiring champs. On the bases I somtimes put a marine shoulder pad, a broken weapon or a few grenades; stuff like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 What blister pack? There is a pack of chosen somewhere? I unfortunately destroyed my DV chosen by being an incredibly terrible painter a year ago. I have since improved, but the drybrushed monstrosities with gloops of paint obscuring any and all detail shall not be fielded! :-p GW sells a clamshell pack of a lord/champion in the DV Chosen style. Really nice model. Also, you can buy the Chosen on Ebay if you need more - they are not expensive. Good choice, apart from the two bolter chosen they have disastrous wargear options however. The wargear's not that hard to replace on most of them! Besides, isn't one of the vaunted advantages of plastic over metal for models that "it's easier to convert them"? Good point about the colour inversion. Also, crests, laurels and the like is the reason I've looked to Sternguard veterans for champions. Togas, laurels and stuff, just sprinkle a touch of chaos here and there and they're squarely EC. Well, actually, the tabarded Sternguard legs on thier own would be perfect now that I think about it. Another thing that came to me is to do chaos versions of imperial iconography. So instead of painting a circlet of laurels on a helmet for example, you could do two halves of a chaos star maybe? Also, I think if you could add a few flamboyant feathers from the WHFB Empire range to your leader models, they they could look fitting and quite original. Finally, some exotic animal furs for the most high-ranking models could work well too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasclomalum Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Major_Gilbear, on 03 Dec 2013 - 15:08, said: GW sells a clamshell pack of a lord/champion in the DV Chosen style. Really nice model. Ah, this guy? That is a really nice model indeed, and one could wish this was the aesthetic standard for regular CSM. I'd wager the dark mechanicum have churned out a lot of Axes of Blinding Fury based on that axe. A tad expensive if he's to be used as a base for champions in all my squads though. Really, there should be a pack of chosen to buy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 More gold on the champions, more decoration. I'd avoid the codex scheme, as the EC existed before the codex existed, and a post heresy legion would never adopt the doctrines of Robert. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 That is a really nice model indeed, and one could wish this was the aesthetic standard for regular CSM. A tad expensive if he's to be used as a base for champions in all my squads though. Really, there should be a pack of chosen to buy. Agreed on all three counts! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seleucus Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I certainly agree that more spikes etc is not the way to go for EC in particular and Slaanesh in general. To me, they are far more into gaudy decoration and mind-blowing colours. If you want to go for different colour helmets to show rank, then use garish or pastel shades rather than inverting original colours - turquoise, lime green, pink etc. Historically, noise marines were covered in multiple pastel colours and, despite GW's move away from this, I still feel it is the best recipe for these nutters!: http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1368/03/1368033848300.jpg OK, maybe not as far as this original concept! More like this? http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/12/3/67830_md-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Classic%2C%20Noise%20Marines%2C%20Old%2C%20Out%20Of%20Production.jpg Still keeping the base colours of purple and gold, but showing a more psychodelic paint pallet to go with their more psychodelic (and psychotic?) behaviour. I just love this guy: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/11/12/293744_md-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Noise%20Marines%2C%20Slaanesh.jpg Obviously, for Aspiring Champions and HQ etc then more gold, more decoration, bling, trophies etc are in order. Maybe use Sanguinar Guard masked helmets and torsos, suitably converted, removing imperial icons and adding chaos icons/marks etc along with the odd mutation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284075-how-do-you-do-your-aspiring-champions/#findComment-3536906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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