GhostMalone Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 So I've noticed that they're are a lot of istvaan survivors roaming around together as they are adhoc and I wondered. What do you think about a warband of renegades that have ran from their respective legions. Deserters, marines that were left to die, lone wolve types and those that claim no allegiance roaming like a kill team. Maybe a kakophini who hated that his perfect flawless feature and legion were corrupted so deserted after istvaan iii or a Terran space wolf that found Russ's extreme hate of the thousand sons unneeded and their deeds tarnished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think it could be a cool idea for a kill team thats what I think! Or maybe a small army with a few marines from each of the 18 legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Would love the history of a Wolf that takes distance to what the VI legion does to the Thousand Sons. Could immagine he would argue it was not "the right thing" to do no matter what Horus had told them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Sounds like a lot of potential for some excellent fluff. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Well I'm wanting to do every unit and thought I could do something like the knights errant and outcast dead. But a ragtag skirmish force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Isn't FW doing something like that for both Sides of the heresy, a collection of characters or something the agents of the emperor/warmaster.....actually thats completely different than what you are saying haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Make it the 30k version of The Expendables. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yeah see I'm thinking having the cost and rules for each unit. For example; So a 10 man tac squad -space wolf deserter -Dark angel sgt that felt betrayed due to censure and rather return to caliban took his squad and went towards terra -salamander orphan - sons of Horus justaerian that hated abaddon for his betrayal of the mournanval painted his armour as a luna wolf after faking his death Etc etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Sounds like a neat idea. The one thing I'd advise against is going with the Kakophoni idea you first mentioned; by the time they became known as such, they were pretty well down the road of elective gene-tampering. That's not to say you couldn't still use an EC, just that he wouldn't likely be a Kakophoni if he rejected the transformations wrought on the legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This sounds similar to what I'm planning for my army, only that they are all Death Guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Make it the 30k version of The Expendables.If you want to do the 30k version of the Dirty Dozen, do the Knights-Errant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabasterKnight Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I like the idea in the OP and I think there's room for wiggle. Agreed with the post about excluding EC who became Kakophoni. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Wasn't there a emperors children with macer varren the world eater? Or did he die Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boater Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 "Within this ragtag group of survivors and renegades are two or three marines in un colored armor, with no rank insignia, and aside from a faded XI on their shoulders bare no markings whatsoever. They are Terran born is the only thing anyone really knows about them as they always talk about the unification wars with a mixture of pride and regret in their voices. Their eyes show a life of sorrow and hate. One of the brothers carries a chain with an Aquila on it. The Aquila has been defaced and the wings broken in anger. It is his most prized possession as it reminds him of what he should never forget. They won't talk about their past and no one in the ragtag group of renegades asks them about their former legions. Everyone knows it's best left unsaid..." I could see this as a thing. I mean from a purely fluff standpoint (ignoring my fanboy isms in the first bit of my post) their is no way that others did not slip through from the traitors side and their are reports of loyalist refugees appearing into the terra system. Also sense there is no religious motive driving the 30k marines for the most part (looking at you Word Barrers) it would make sense that some would find the renegade life more appealing than in 40k. Especially if some of these legionaries had to watch their families killed, and their homes destroyed by the legions before they were taken away to become legionaries. Cool idea -The Boater Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 I would love to do it as a Irish catholic marine finding and gathering other deserters and what not. People should pitch character ideas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3537999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boater Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Brother Adrias Tyrian: former legionnaire from legion XII. Status: Tratorus Renegade. Crime: Desertion. Former rank: Legion Sargent. Personal attributes: Sargent Tyrian was attributed to be a quick learner and very skilled tactician (at trait not common in the XII) and was on the fast track towards becoming an officer. When the legion as a whole adopted the personal augmentics known as the "Butchers Nails" Sgt. Tyrian refused (reasons stated: Adrias clammed that the "nails" would dull his tactical sense and would be a curse upon the legion that he would never take part in) making him somewhat of an outcast within his chain of command. Shortly after, during the destruction of the planet Pythor, Adrias went missing and it is believed that he abandoned the legion. It is believed that the events surrounding Brother Tyrian's selection and induction into the legion may have played a role in his disappearance. He was among a number of recruits taken from the world of Daxitar during the legion engagement there. The engagement ended in the destruction the planet. -The Boater Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 A Terran night lord That would be pretty awesome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Amit vs Khârn Future flesh tearer vs future betrayer Fitting I think Oh sorry wrong topic my bad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Lol a black Irish Catholic (*note this doesn't mean black African. I am black Irish which means that we have paler skin and dark black hair. Oh and we only drink Jameson, because Bushmills is for those p**** northern Irish who are british huggers) oh and a little proud if not narcissitic :D haha my family from my fathers side were once nobles in Ireland and my last name means War-like for our hot blooded temper. Ahh genetics If you make Catheric gaellic renegade who worries more about saving the humans he is no longer of, then I might have to find you some time in this life and buy you a pint of guinness for your troubles Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What about the Centurion of an Ultramarine Destroyer formation who survived the Underground War of Calth and is extremely unhappy with both the Traitors and with Guilliman for leaving him to die and the whole "Imperium Secundus" thing? "My name is Caius Petronius. Brother of the despised and abandoned, son of a murdered world, loyal servant of the TRUE Emperor of Mankind, and I will have my vengeance. In this life, or the next." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 A space wolf spyker who dislikes the way Russ and the rest of the legion attacks The Thousand Sons. Or a spyker Word Eater, same idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 A psyker from the Imperial Fists 1st company!!!! just trolling of course Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 I'm liking the sgt of the WE thanks boater he shall be the first I make. Wade I never thought I'd build an ultra but you sold me on that idea, destroyer ultra centurion it is ;) And :cuss me DC I swear are we family? I want my counts as praetor to be my Irish brethren and now to figure out where/what is Ireland post unification Anaziel I think a rune priest that's turned from Russ due to ignorance and the censuring of the TS is brilliant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boater Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thought you might like the WE I'll have one from my other idea (the lost legion renegades) for you later when I can finalize a little bit of his character while staying with the current trend of "not talking while still talking about the lost legions) -The Boater Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Ireland would either be part of Alba (Scotland / England), or come up with something like Hiberia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284141-renegades-in-the-heresy/#findComment-3538589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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