Dark_Master Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Good news - lascannon Mortis got a points drop Bad news - Everybody gets them! DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Just to rub salt in the wound - Heresy era armies can take Mortis pattern Contemptors as an actual unit... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Well, didn't see that one coming... /sarcasm At least we get access to proper fliers now via the Stormwing Formation. Maybe it evens out a bit this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Who how why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Is it a formation or what? I dont see any new formations on BL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm guessing someone got their IA2v2 in the mail today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ^^^^^ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Soon it will be our turn, here in the Antipodes. Soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Meh...if you want to count all of those rules sets, I'll just gonna go with a wing of thunderbolts and be done with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 And the sad tradition continues... First our Tornadoes, now our Mortis. Why is GW so intend on us having nothing unique except for our 1st/2nd companies? Oh, and our lack of decent AA of course. I just hope we'll get some nice unique stuff in 30k that doesn't get passed around like the village bicycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Why is GW so intend on us having nothing unique except for our 1st/2nd companies? Because Dark Angel tears taste the sweetest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm guessing someone got their IA2v2 in the mail today. Yep, Xmas pressie Managed to have a quick peek before the boss got home DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Well I guess only those with access to the IA2 V2 book will get them I certainly shan't be buying it so I will lose out on the points change? Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Good news - lascannon Mortis got a points drop Bad news - Everybody gets them! DM This might seem like a daft question, but points drop compared to which publication? I'll be honest, there are so many releases and re-releases of Imperial Armour books that I have completely lost track of which is the most up-to-date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 Good news - lascannon Mortis got a points drop Bad news - Everybody gets them! DM This might seem like a daft question, but points drop compared to which publication? I'll be honest, there are so many releases and re-releases of Imperial Armour books that I have completely lost track of which is the most up-to-date I'm comparing to the free pdf on the forgeworld website. Base cost went up the cost of a combi weapon, but auto cannons went down by the same amount so no change there. Lascannons cost the same as a PFG, so overall went down in cost. No option for venerable Mortis dreads thou :-( The restriction of 0-1 has gone as well DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Righty-ho, I've got that PDF handy so I know the costs now. Thanks DM :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Sucks no Venerable Mortis - I never knew there was a 0-1 restriction - I've always ran them in pairs when I've ran them... Their 3rd brother is sitting in pieces yet to be built... Same price is good. Is the book worth the price tag? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 So now everyone can get them? grey knights, C:SM, space wolves, and the like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And now you guys know how we BA felt when the Stormraven was given first to the GK and then everyone else, a pox on GW and their money-grubbing ways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Can any of the vehicles in IA22E be given the Deathwing Vehicle upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Only if it's listed in their entry in IA22E, so no. Codex: Dark Angels certainly doesn't let you slap DWV on anything you like, even within the codex! I suppose what you were hoping for is a meta-rule in C: DA along the lines of "any vehicle in a DA army may be given the DWV upgrade," but sadly this is not the case. A few vehicles that make sense in a "pure" deathwing army (dreads and land raiders are, I think, the only ones) are given the option/requirement, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I was hoping for Deathwing Land Raider Prometheus or Deathwing Spartan Assault Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 That would be nice! My books are in transit, so I can't reread the rule, but I think the DWV option is listed as an upgrade in the army list section under each separate vehicle entry. It would have to be a general rule stating "any land raider fielded in a DA army blah blah blah" in order to be applied to non-codex units, and I'm sure that's not the case, unfortunately. Actually, an Achilles would be insane with DWV, since it laughs at melta weaponry...combine that with damage table rerolls, and IT WILL NOT DIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And now you guys know how we BA felt when the Stormraven was given first to the GK and then everyone else, a pox on GW and their money-grubbing ways! You say that as if C:SM doesn't seem to always end up as C:DA 1.5. In fact, how sure are we that Guilliman was actually just the publisher of the Codex Astartes and it's actual writer was Lion El'Johnson? In the grim darkness of the 40th millenium, surely it wouldn't take much to confuse the two... That would be nice! My books are in transit, so I can't reread the rule, but I think the DWV option is listed as an upgrade in the army list section under each separate vehicle entry. It would have to be a general rule stating "any land raider fielded in a DA army blah blah blah" in order to be applied to non-codex units, and I'm sure that's not the case, unfortunately. Actually, an Achilles would be insane with DWV, since it laughs at melta weaponry...combine that with damage table rerolls, and IT WILL NOT DIE! Isn't there a list of upgrades to make a relic vehicle included in the book, one of which is venerable? So even if you could only take one, Iron Hands could easily do that (minus the preferred enemy part). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 So now everyone can get them? grey knights, C:SM, space wolves, and the like? C:SM can take them, but I am really ticked off that Astral Claws can take them DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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