Thinking of starting

[Knight of the Raven]

My introduction to the hobby was the White Dwarf with the World Eaters.

I never looked back.

 

(Okay, so mine are heresy era loyalists - shut up.)

[Kais Klip]

The Lion, Guilliman, Curze(surprisingly), Mortarion, Ferrus Manus, Vulkan and Sanguinius are the only Primarchs I believe to have been shown to actually have ever followed the Edict. Maybe Khan. I say maybe because being a Stormseer also meant having responsibilities outside being a Librarian, such as being in charge of the recruitment process and being a watchful eye over Chogoris. So as long a they relinquished their roles as Librarians, the Stormseers could just assume their other responsibilities and still remain Stormseers. And I'm not familiar with the particulars of Scars yet so I could be wntirely wrong on how it all worked out with them.

In terms of Scars and the Legion's librarians, the whole Nikiea edict was viewed as "foolishness" by both the Khan, the librarians and the rank and file legionaries, who continued to show willing subservient respect to the stormseers. But the official reason that they weren't abolished, had any official inquiry actually managed to reach them, would be as you said, that the Stormseers were more than librarians and so could not be discarded as neatly as the librarius of other legions.

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

The Lion, Guilliman, Curze(surprisingly), Mortarion, Ferrus Manus, Vulkan and Sanguinius are the only Primarchs I believe to have been shown to actually have ever followed the Edict. Maybe Khan. I say maybe because being a Stormseer also meant having responsibilities outside being a Librarian, such as being in charge of the recruitment process and being a watchful eye over Chogoris. So as long a they relinquished their roles as Librarians, the Stormseers could just assume their other responsibilities and still remain Stormseers. And I'm not familiar with the particulars of Scars yet so I could be wntirely wrong on how it all worked out with them.

In terms of Scars and the Legion's librarians, the whole Nikiea edict was viewed as "foolishness" by both the Khan, the librarians and the rank and file legionaries, who continued to show willing subservient respect to the stormseers. But the official reason that they weren't abolished, had any official inquiry actually managed to reach them, would be as you said, that the Stormseers were more than librarians and so could not be discarded as neatly as the librarius of other legions.

 

 

So they just kept their Librarius under wraps then?

[Kais Klip]

 

 

 

 

 

The Lion, Guilliman, Curze(surprisingly), Mortarion, Ferrus Manus, Vulkan and Sanguinius are the only Primarchs I believe to have been shown to actually have ever followed the Edict. Maybe Khan. I say maybe because being a Stormseer also meant having responsibilities outside being a Librarian, such as being in charge of the recruitment process and being a watchful eye over Chogoris. So as long a they relinquished their roles as Librarians, the Stormseers could just assume their other responsibilities and still remain Stormseers. And I'm not familiar with the particulars of Scars yet so I could be wntirely wrong on how it all worked out with them.

In terms of Scars and the Legion's librarians, the whole Nikiea edict was viewed as "foolishness" by both the Khan, the librarians and the rank and file legionaries, who continued to show willing subservient respect to the stormseers. But the official reason that they weren't abolished, had any official inquiry actually managed to reach them, would be as you said, that the Stormseers were more than librarians and so could not be discarded as neatly as the librarius of other legions.

So they just kept their Librarius under wraps then?

In a word, yes. In lots of words, they were too far out for anyone to check; both in terms of distance and dogma, since the Khan was altogether extremely rebellious. They weren't hiding anything in so much as no one was looking for anything.

 

Think the US prohibition era, except these americans are on a lonely little US navy recon outpost in the middle of the pacific. They have no radio, no map and no compass, but they have a speed boat and a CO that reads communism.

 

And they love it.

[Uprising]

All very interesting stories, and the amount of replies is quite surprising. 

@ Cormac Airt:  It is always good to see another hardcore DOW player.  Also your post was truly inspiration at the very least. 

 

So I did some thinking and would like your opinion on my top two

 

Death Guard

Pros:  Love their color scheme, fluff, tactics, miniatures, and playing style, i can do corrosive and blood effect(I love doing this) their primarch I respect and enjoy his raising is the most interesting. 

cons: I despise what they become after the heresy and hate their fall. 

 

Salamander

Pros:Love their color scheme, fluff, miniatures, their purpose and outlook, their primarch Is my personal favorite. 

Cons:I already have three companies of them, so a 30k version seem like overkill.  Also a minor issue but their is a lack of forge world models for them. 

Thoughts and thanks for reading. 

 

Also best load out for Predator in 30k?

[Tonal]

Night I suggest a Death Gaurd army, perhaps Garro it one if the other Loyalist DG's formations, with a small allied Heresy Era Salamanders force?

[Conn Eremon]

Tonal is right, you can always choose both thanks to the Allied detachment. Though they might not be battle-brothers, it'd nice to see.

 

To hit each one:

 

Death Guard have loyalists, and even have a special character on the loyalist side, Crysos Morturg or something. One of your pros is their color scheme, but you can also opt to go for the Dusk Raider look as well, fluffing out an army that predates their Primarch and therefore the Heresy. Though someone posted a Mortarion in Dusk Raider colors and my god it was beautiful.

 

If you already have an army, perhaps you can use it to start this one off? Forge world has been loving Death Guard, Iron Hands and Night Lords a bit, but before that it was the Sons of Horus, Emperor's Children and World Eaters. Salamanders will have their time. Probably next, alongside the Word Bearers.

[Wade Garrett]

My Legion, you ask?

 

"Humanity must have faith. Nothing unites mankind the way religion inspires unity. No conflict rages as fiercely as a holy war. No warrior kills with the conviction of a crusader. Nothing in life breeds bonds and ambitions greater than the ties and dreams forged by faith. Religion brings hope, unification, law, and purpose. The foundations of civilization itself. Faith is nothing less than the pillar of a sentient species, raising it above the automaton and the beast."

 

Kor Phaeron, First Captain and Master of the Faith, Legio Astartes XVII, Bearers of the Word

 

In the name of those above and those below, we come. Not for vengeance, or to sate some inner craving, for a hunger for power or simple psychotic rage.

 

Ours is a higher purpose. A sanctified one. We are humanity's salvation. WE ARE THE TRUTH.

 

We are the blessed sons of Aurelian, the first to walk in the realm where men and gods meet, chosen above all others to bear the burden of revelation.

 

Fear us. Hate us, if it brings you comfort. But we will save you, even from yourselves. Though the path leads through blood and flame, we will walk it yet. For our path alone is the true one.

 

Ave Aurelian, Ave Cyrene, Ave Narag, Kharak, Tezen and Slau Na. To them be the power and the glory forever and ever, amen.

[depthcharge12]

I loved the Dark Angels first. I was introduced to them first and kept my interest in the hobby.

 

 

 

Knights still exist in the far grimdark. Dark green and knights were two of my favorite things, and nothing says boss like using a 6 foot powered sword to kill a guy with a gun and doing it all in a comfy and rakish bathrobe.

 

 

But they werent always the good guys, they were the black knights who always had their own agenda and would manipulate and pursue it to the ends of the earth.

 

 

 

I was also drawn to factions such as the World Eaters and Flesh Tearers because they were unbridled savagry coupled with a noble countenance.

 

 

 

I like evil and I always root for the bad guys, but they cant be spikey and have googley monsters out of their armpits. Thats not cool, its just silly.

[Uprising]

Well I decided on the death guard legion for my 30k project.  The awesome fluff, color scheme, and style won me over.  So anything i should know about them in particular, especially tabletop wise? 

[GhostMalone]

Flamers meltas and rad grenades.... That is all :D

[AlabasterKnight]

Were I to do an army that was not a Lost Legion theme (II and XI, calling them "Storm Angels" and "Pegasus Legion" respectively), my attraction in HH era is toward Salamanders and Iron Hands since every other Loyalist one seems to get plenty of attention. If I had to be drug kicking and screaming to being corrupted by the ruinous powers, the Thousand Sons and Night Lords get my top two votes.

 

Thousand Sons pre-heresy would be my favorite: I just think are the coolest scheme ever with so much upside with their aegyptopharaonic themes... lots of gorgeous possibilities...

I like the Salamanders for the general fluff and feel of the legion.

I like the Iron Hands for all that screams warmachines, mechanicals and conversions.

I like the idea of Night Lords being able to deck out a preheresy army in stealthy bogeyman mode...

[Russ Brother 92]

Well I decided on the death guard legion for my 30k project.  The awesome fluff, color scheme, and style won me over.  So anything i should know about them in particular, especially tabletop wise? 

 

Yup as Jasp said - flamers (make them chem-munitions), meltas cause they're smexy and rad because you can - siege breakers, destroyers and chemical warfare is their thing :)

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

For me it was an easy choice - Iron Hands were the chapter that got me interested in Space Marines, and as a Legion they are even more awesome. (Plus, 30k is their saving grace in light of the horrific fluff obliteration of their Chapter form from the Clan Raukaan supplement & the lastest Codex)

 

Massacre expanded upon the sparse detail of the IHs as a Legion, and gave them a really cool image & structure.

 

In terms of Characteristics:

*They are definately the most grimdark loyalist Legion - prone to slaughtering populations to prove a point

*I love the AdMech, and these guys have the closest relationship with them

*Making superhumans even more hardcore by bolting on bits of metal is a very good thing in my books

*They are cold, unyielding and despise weakness - the perfect anti-heros

*The fact that they are basically made up of multiple mini-legions that all compete (agressively) and vie for glory, united only in name and the leadership of the Gorgon paints a really stark picture

 

Basically, I like my 30k grimdark and bleak, and the 10th are certainly that

[ninjasuperspy]

I've recently shifted my allegiance from the Relictors to 30K Alpha Legion. They scared orks man, they scarked ORKS.

 

That said I bet Forgeworld will do a great job with Dark Angels. You know, in 2015 or whenever they finally get to them...

[Uprising]

I've recently shifted my allegiance from the Relictors to 30K Alpha Legion. They scared orks man, they scarked ORKS.

The flesh tearers did that as well. 

 

It's very interesting why people choose their legion like they do.  I just hope I can do mine proud. 

[Hyaenidae]

I spent the first few years of my military career with a mechanized cavalry squadron. The Iron Warriors were simply a natural fit to my mindset.

 

And like like things that go 'Whump', and rattle buildings and diaphragms.

[depthcharge12]

I spent the first few years of my military career with a mechanized cavalry squadron. The Iron Warriors were simply a natural fit to my mindset.

 

And like like things that go 'Whump', and rattle buildings and diaphragms.

 

 

RHINOOOOOOOS! THEY BROUGHT RHINOSSS!

 

 

TEH FEWLS.

 

 

 

THEY HIDE IN MEHTUL BAWKSES.

 

 

 

WE SHALL *wheeze* TAKE AWAY THEIR MEHTUL BAWKSES.....