Tenebris Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Greetings, I think it is high time that we have a topic of our own about the Dataslates. The formations are the new hit and are here to stay so why not brainstorm a little or a lot... Post here your ideas for the Dataslate Formations for team Chaos. Let's start with two of mine: Despoiler Squad: 20 Chaos Space Marines - Veterans of the Long War - Extra Close Combat Weapons Special Rules: Fearless, Reaver Reaver: The model with this rule can make Precision Shots... (Truth be told I playtested this one in a game, it is solid and with bolters in double tap range can be very effective, it worked surprisingly well since I have allocated the wounds from Precise Shots to enemy characters, by that removing the pains of a forced challenge) Cult of .... 1-3 Cultists Squads Dark Apostle Special Rules: Meatshield, Fearless Meatshield: The Chaos Space Marines use their cultists in many gruesome ways, soaking enemy fire is just one of them. Every model from the Chaos Space Marines Codex, gains a 4+ cover save if it or its unit is located behind the cultists squads... Edited for clarification. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Can't find this in the BL store. Could you post a link? Many thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3543786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hehe no no, perhaps I have explained badly. Post here your ideas (the brainstorming part) about Chaos Dataslates. My bad, though to have such Dataslate forces would be awesome indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3543788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yea, you got me excited too. Maybe make it clearer in teh OP? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3543808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Haha, ok. Well, I have to say that I don't like the idea of "detachments" and "formations" in 40k, as it allows for really weird army compositions. But fearless cultists offering 4+ save for units behind, sure sounds nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3543811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Once more into the breach: Machina Infernalis: Forgefiend Maulerfiend Warpsmith Special rules: Machine Kindred, Unholy Code Machine Kindred: the Fiends are a part of an unholy pact with twin daemons, Both warp engines share some insight of their daemonic nature and they are bonded to the Warpsmith by pacts unknown and dire. The Forgefiend gets +1 BS, the Maulerfied +1 WS and the Warpsmith a +1 inv save as long as the Warpsmith is alive. Unholy Code: The IWnD effect gains a +1 bonus to the rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3544018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Air terror squad. 2+ helldrakes 2 shot as one big template str 7 ap3 pinning 3 shot as one big template str 7 ap2 pinning at -2Ld 4 shot as one big template str 7 ap1 units affected have to automaticly make a fall back move Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3544025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Time Saver Squad CSM primary detatchment Roll a d6. On a 2-6 you lose. On a 1, reroll. Doesn't the wishlisting belong in the stickied thread on a more serious note? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3544178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 No. Fireblood Knights. 1 Chaos Lord, the Lord must have the mark of Khorne and a Juggernaut. 2 Chaos Space marines bikes squadrons of minimum 5 members, they must have the MoK, they can exchange their bikes with Juggernauts for +15pts per model. Devastating charge; models of this formation makes 1D3 Hammer of Wrath hits(roll once for the same unit, and apply the result to the whole unit), resolved with a S6. Head first in the fray; models of the formation has the Prefered ennemy rule Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3544326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son of Magnus Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Our Codex Is A Piece of ****: if a player playing loyalist space marines complains about the Heldrake or anything CSM have that they don't, you may flip the table and rant to them about how our codex is terribad. You also automatically win the game, and and any subsequent games against that player. Requirements: a Chaos Space Marine model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3544993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 A cool thing for the cultist squads would be in Chaos Space marines could openly fire into close combats where cultists were locked with enemy troops. They would confer a 5+ coversave and any losses in cultists would sway towards combat victory. Also, Cultits have Without Number rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3545714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 So with these dataslates, you would be able to field a army specific list? So maybe something like... Night Lords Take a warlord with a jump pack which could make raptors a troop choice? Or warlord on bike to do the same thing? But not taking any kind of marks to do this. Give up 2 heavy choices to do this, kinda like in the old rules for Night Lords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3546162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'd like to see dataslate formations incorporated into the core game going forward. Not quite as they're currently implemented - as formations outside of the force org chart - but instead maybe as a particular set of bonus rules applied if you buy all the elements of the formation with your normal slots and field them together. Anyway, I don't think we'll be seeing any official ones for chaos for a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3546376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 What is the most likely is that with GW policy of not doing rules if there is no models for it, to avoid Third party companies to make profits of unavailable models( like it was for a long time during 4th and 5th). They will use the dataslates to provide rules for stuff that will get models but in second waves of models or something. Also like i allready said in another post, when codex Nids comes out there will be 2 dataslates available, one for Nids with Lictors and stuff and one for Sm Ultramarines with Cassius abd his elite troops of NIds killers. I think it is a good proof, that there will be more dataslates, after all if there is rules, people will buy the models, and vice versa. Now maybe the day they will decide that after one, two or three years after release of the codex, we can finaly have Chosen, Dread and cultist kits, we will see dataslates with particular formations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3546424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Here's my attempt; Word Bearers Host: 1 Dark Apostle 2+ Chaos Space Marines (veterans of the Long War) The whole Host is fearless. - I second being able to shoot in cultist melee, but if dark eldar can't do it... Only Skaven can do it in Fantasy. Dark Elves, Daemons, no one else can. (The side of Evulz can shoot in melee in LotR though.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3547536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Sacrificial Rite 1 Dark Apostle (must take a Mark of Chaos) 10-35 Cultists (are only armed with close combat weapons) Dark Apostle and Cultists count as one unit. We Offer Ourselves to the Glory of Chaos: At the beginning of every round, d6 Cultists are removed from the table. The Dark Apostle makes a Leadership test and, if successful, immediately rolls on the table below for the results of the sacrifice. The Eyes of the Gods Are Upon You: If the Dark Apostle rolls a double 6 result while testing for the Sacrifice, immediately make a Toughness test. If the Toughness test is passed, no further results beyond the failure of the Sacrifice this turn. If the Toughness test is failed, the Dark Apostle becomes a Chaos Spawn of the same alignment as the Dark Apostle. 1 - Sacrifice is unworthy; the gods are fickle and cruel 2 - Lesser Daemons appear and replace the number of Cultists that were sacrificed, of the same alignment as the Dark Apostle 3 - Dark Apostle gets a Sd6+3 APd3+2 R48" Large Blast Heavy 1 weapon to use in the Shooting Phase 4 - Chaos Spawn appear and replace the number of Cultists that were sacrificed, bearing the same Mark of Chaos as the Dark Apostle 5 - Dark Apostle gets a Sd6+3 APd3+2 R48" Small Blast Heavy d6 weapon to use in the Shooting Phase 6 - A Greater Daemon appears, of the same alignment as the Dark Apostle. The remaining Cultists are immediately removed from the table; the Sacrificial Rite is completed with the successful summoning of the Greater Daemon. "Lesser Daemons" MoK - Bloodletters MoN - Plague Bearers MoT - Pink Horrors MoS - Daemonettes "Greater Daemons" MoK - Bloodthirster MoN - Great Unclean One MoT - Lord of Change MoS - Keeper of Secrets EDIT: Changed Chaos Sorcerer to Dark Apostle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3547804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 "Sorcerer has MoK"? I think you'd want to define how this detachment can get daemons of Khorne, because that is a correct thing to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3547865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 "Sorcerer has MoK"? I think you'd want to define how this detachment can get daemons of Khorne, because that is a correct thing to do. Whoops! You are correct about that. How about changing him to a Dark Apostle? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3547872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 "Sorcerer has MoK"? I think you'd want to define how this detachment can get daemons of Khorne, because that is a correct thing to do. Whoops! You are correct about that. How about changing him to a Dark Apostle? Can't it be both? Make the leader 1 Dark Apostle or 1 Chaos Sorcerer, that way there are 7 different marked leaders and people who hate one of the choices can use the other (unless they want Khornate Daemons, I admit) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284422-chaos-dataslate-detachments/#findComment-3547999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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