redshadow Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 At 165pts he's the best value hq BA have, i'm gessing he still has hit and run and his stat lines are the same ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Its not a data slate, its a misprinted warlords material. its DOES NOT replace dante's profile in codex blood angels. their purpose is to provide background and details about characters that exist in the codexes, see typhus for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 yup, the info in the warlords thing is pretty inaccurate, his list of wargear doesnt actually include the axe mortalis or his deathmask, he lacks the tactical precision and surgical strike rules and the axe mortalis in the relic section is still marked as a master crafted power weapon when it has been officially stated to be an axe (despite it being a horrible waste of init 6...) I dropped the digital editions facebook page a message about the above and it's been passed onto the rules guys so they can update. Would be nice if the axe mortalis was given not terrible rules though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 At least Dante has hit and run, so having I6 isn't a -complete- waste (can also opt to use his IP as a CCW rather than the axe, if you're ok with whacking stuff at AP -). Putting the points cost in just seems to cause lots of confusion for very little gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The stuff in said digital edition omits hit and run (surgical strike) and franly, having to use an AP- weapon to use his init is crazy when you have stuff like the burning blade, daemon weapons etc. Even if it was a +x strength AP3 weapon it'd probably be reasonable, or if he struck at init on charge only, that'd fit his background too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 If I had control over making dante I'd do the following... Make the axe mortals a master crafted power axe that strikes at initiative. Change the death mask of sanguinius to be the same as any other death mask but have it impose a -1 on Ld checks to resist and have it work on fearless units. Keep stats and other rules the same, keep points the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmagog Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I can't cope with black library anymore! It's so confusing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Agreed, whatever unit I field him with benefits greatly from 'hit and run' be it plasma honour guard getting out of unwanted combat to sanguinary gaurd charge in, rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Apparently it was a mistake and has been corrected so that rules are consistent with the current codex. The detail that intrigued me was blurb describing Dante as the oldest living marine - what happened to Veteran Sergeant Cleutin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 cleutin as in the sergeant that had once been dante's sergeant? I believe he's dead... I like that it gave a definitive answer to his age (around 1400-1500). I dislike that he has white hair as it means i have to repaint mine lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wait what? Can anyone shed some light on this? http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Dante.html I liked the background. It goes through the highlights of Dante's career. Going through the trials, going into the sarcophagus, how he became chapter master etc. there is a nice prophesy about him also from Sargon Eregesh. Storm Oracle of the black legion. I would love a novel on a couple of events from his life but how he became chapter master stands out for me. He became chapter master mainly by being the last candidate still standing after a really tough victory for the blood angels that took them to the edge. He took the oath as chapter master still in his bloodstained and Brocken captains armour. Many thanks. Glad you liked it, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 You wrote it A-D-B? I thought these we're essentially just rehash's of the codex work. and hence by the same authors.....have you done any of the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pandion40 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wait what? Can anyone shed some light on this? http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Dante.htmlI liked the background. It goes through the highlights of Dante's career. Going through the trials, going into the sarcophagus, how he became chapter master etc. there is a nice prophesy about him also from Sargon Eregesh. Storm Oracle of the black legion. I would love a novel on a couple of events from his life but how he became chapter master stands out for me. He became chapter master mainly by being the last candidate still standing after a really tough victory for the blood angels that took them to the edge. He took the oath as chapter master still in his bloodstained and Brocken captains armour. Many thanks. Glad you liked it, dude. I was wondering if you wrote it, I believe you said you wrote the death company one and that you were writing another. Dante doesn't get the attention I believe he deserves, so it was great to read a bit more of his history. I believe you got the right balance between how awesome Dante is but also how hard it is to live as long as he has doing the job he does. It definitely left me wanting more. The prophesy from the point of view of the Black Legion was a particularly nice touch. You wrote it A-D-B? I thought these we're essentially just rehash's of the codex work. and hence by the same authors.....have you done any of the others? I can't speak of all of them but the background in this one and the Death Company one is definitely not a rehash's of the codex. I believe they were both written by ADB. See my post above for a brief summery of what info it contains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 You wrote it A-D-B? I thought these we're essentially just rehash's of the codex work. and hence by the same authors.....have you done any of the others? See the BL explanation of them. They collate the stories known about the character, and add new material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hmm I thought the writing seemed good, dante having not been the chosen one so to speak was actually a really nice touch, though id have really liked to see some mention of the events that lead to him being on a penitent mission on a chaos ship and getting blessed by the sanguinor, both the misdead and bleasing seem like formative events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 You wrote it A-D-B? I thought these we're essentially just rehash's of the codex work. and hence by the same authors.....have you done any of the others? Sure did. Not the rules, though - I didn't know at the time that these articles were getting rules. I'd like to do more but they're a surprising investment of time (I'm slooowwww) and take a couple of days each. Which isn't something I can risk too often, work-wise. I really love doing them, though. So far, I've done Dante, Death Company, and Chainswords. The trick is to make them new and interestingly written, so they're worth picking up. Admittedly they're only the cost of a beer (or a chocolate bar in some cases), but you still don't want someone feeling ripped off. Otherwise it'd be easy to cut and paste old text and be done with it. Cheekily (or interestingly, depending on your perspective) it's also possible to tie them into other stuff. F'rex, Sargon, the Storm Oracle of the Black Legion, is going to be one of the main characters in the Black Legion Series. It's a key thing to show that even if Chaos Marines and Space Marines despise each other, there's a grudging respect between some of them. And in the Death Company article, I mentioned how the Chaplain on Mackan was one of the few Space Marines to ever land a blow on Abaddon in ten thousand years, and went into a bit of detail about the guerilla campaign he and his Death Company fought, which caused the Black Legion so much difficulty. That'll end up being a major part of the Seventh Black Crusade, when the series eventually reaches it. Stuff like that, which'll hopefully end up paying off in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drekkan Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Dear Sir, Your stuff are always a pleasant read. Regards. Drekkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabbacca Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Well thanks for the clarification on the error between the two versions regarding the points difference guys Also cool to see the person behind the interesting background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Only plus would be sang guard...if you like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebymster Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 We'll done D A-B, and thanks for raising your head above the parapet! To tangent on "what should Dante be like in next Dex:" why oh why has he never had eternal warrior? A Lone Wolf gets it soon as his unit dies, this Dude is the Oldest Living Marine! (poss) 6th Ed is all about shooting. Angels can counter that by getting behind firing lines and chewing up troops. but be careful what you wish for, my bid playing friends thought a new dex would be the answer to all their problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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