Kastor Krieg Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Striping miniatures. UGH, right? All the chemistry and smell. Thetime wasted, days of waiting. All the godawful scrubbing and resultingdamage. All the fear that your minis will be ruined. And don't talk tome about Finecast or the final effects, which are often so far away fromexpectation. Or about striping bits, raurgh.This below is animage of about a 6-year old Scout that was painted by probably asix-year old, the seller's son I think - so thick was the paint, that Ihad no hope even with days in braking fluid and hard scrubbing inperspective. I spent 10 minutes over the Scout and his buddy, afterwhich he looks like that. No hard scrubbing involved, just a hardtoothbrush and a bit of brushing the paint flakes off.That thereis some paint remaining is only due to the fact that I could not bebothered to pick up a toothpick before making the photo. But, how? SORCERY! HERESY! No,Battle Brothers, this is the new, Mechanicum-approved technology inminiature stripping. Ultrasonic cleaners, mates. Cheap, fairly reliable (+ with proper rites observed, hail Omnissiah +)and QUICK! Seriously, I got mine for ~$25-30. It runs 180s programs - Iused only TWO on the Scouts. Six minutes in the cleaner, in IPA alcohol(isopropylene alcohol is reportedly safe for resin, but make a testbefore you try a mini! EMPEROR PROTECTS!), four minutes of leisurely andlight brushing and he's presentable.What do you think? :> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Krieg, you are weirding me out/blowing my mind. I was just stripping some metal minis last night and thinking to myself whether an ultrasonic cleaner would speed the process along. Thanks for confirming! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 It doesn't speed it up. It makes it so quick that what would be a month-long project can be done overnight. With pauses for beer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It doesn't speed it up. It makes it so quick that what would be a month-long project can be done overnight. With pauses for beer. There are a bunch of these things on the market, mind providing the make and model of your cleaner? Don't want to waste my time and get a crappy product accidentally. I've heard these can clean airbrush parts too- all the more reason to invest in one of these (for when I get an airbrush that is) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yes, the guys in Poland who came up with that (I think it was ARBAL from Coloured Dusty) intended these for that particular use - cleaning the airbrush nozzles and it works fine. However, it turns out that it's awesome for stripping.What I got myself is a cheap AEG 5516, base cost was something like 30-35 bucks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Alrighty then. One last question: is the cleaner you have big enough to put something like a rhino chassis in, or would you need to break it down? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 http://bloodybrushes.blogspot.com/2013/12/czysczenie-figurek-w-myjce.htmlhttp://bloodybrushes.blogspot.com/2013/05/conrad-ultrasonic-cleaner-hobbyclean.htmlSee these articles :)Generally, mine fits a Rhino tight (but to bathe a Vindicator the shield needs to go), there are larger and more expensive ones (price grow quite rapidly with the volume, sorry to say), which would fit a Land Raider, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Was there any primer on this model? The only thing I've not been able to strip off minis is Army Painter primers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yup, ultrasonic cleaners are the bomb! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 There was an undercoat of unknown black primer on the minis. And yes, they indeed are :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The cheapest example I have found (so far) of the model mentioned is £31.46 (excluding p+p), which is very affordable. I'll seriously consider getting one in the new year, as lets face it, anyone who collects minis (regardless of what game system) will eventually want to strip them and start again. The added bonus is that it's not limited to being used just on minis! Excellent find, Brother! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I suspect its the alcohol that eats the paint, and doubt that machine does too much*. I prefer Fairypower spray in a jar left over night: bigger models in an old ice cream tub. The stuff lasts forever in a jar, and doesn't stink badly either. *though if I was fluent in polish I might have some idea what the machine actually does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I suspect its the alcohol that eats the paint, and doubt that machine does too much. I prefer Fairypower spray in a jar left over night: bigger models in an old ice cream tub. The stuff lasts forever in a jar, and doesn't stink badly either.That's what I usually use as well, but if it speeds up the process and makes for (even) less effort, then I'm willing to give it a go Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 I suspect its the alcohol that eats the paint, and doubt that machine does too much*. I prefer Fairypower spray in a jar left over night: bigger models in an old ice cream tub. The stuff lasts forever in a jar, and doesn't stink badly either. *though if I was fluent in polish I might have some idea what the machine actually does. The alcohol only weakens the paint layer, the machine basically does the scrubbing for you and allows the alcohol under the paint layer, further facilitating separation. The ultrasonic vibrations cause small air bubbles to be created on the surface of the miniature and then they implode, the suction tearing the paint off the mini. It's like a million tiny octopii working for you (XENOS HERESY! I know). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Still, less then 15 mins to strip w mini even with IPO is a huge improvement. Sonic cleaners have solid science, keen to try this. Ty Kastor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Must buy must buy must buy must buy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3547998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I've heard these can clean airbrush parts too- all the more reason to invest in one of these (for when I get an airbrush that is)Just had a quick google search (link has various youtube videos and other related stuff ) about that. It would appear that sonic cleaners might be of significant benefit for those Frater using airbrushes. Must take a lot of hassle out of cleaning the nozzles etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 A couple of ? do you soak the mini in alcohol and then throw in the the cleaner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 My cleaner has a stainless steel pot inside, so I pour the IPA in, enough for the minis to be fully covered and toss them in. There isn't any splashing or spraying, just slight ripples on the surface. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Thanks and COOL found a good one on ebay pull out the card. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think it looks amazing - I'll wait for a few more testaments from you guys, but wow - could be great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorDaemon Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Darn, I thought this was a help post of how to get my minis to stop dancing at the Gentlemen's Club...these wyches can't keep what little clothes they have on! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 OK cheers Krieg. Makes more sense with that explanation. Pretty sure I saw one of these devices advertised in the window of Iidl yesterday, just might give it another look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 So you used it with Isoprpyl alcohol solution? SOunds intriguing.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 No solution, just pure 96% vol. isopropylene alcohol (cleaning IPA). If you used something stronger that's safe for plastic, you can use that too. (so that you don't melt the device, lol). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284616-all-your-mini-stripping-woes-are-gone/#findComment-3548295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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