Tonal Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Hail brothers and sisters of the B&C, today I come before this venerable board in search of advice from my fellow Loremasters and Fluffwrights. For a good long while now I've been considering shifting my 40k army over too the grand Horus Heresy. I'm a devout follower of lore rather then painting or playing, and while that has done wonders in keeping me interested in Warhammer when I haven't had the time nor resources too endulge my hobbyist side, the Sixth Edition has brought no small amount of worry. I like much of 40k's lore, new and old, and the setting in general continues too keep me enthralled, but I fear.. I fear for my Salamanders.. I've adored Vulkan's Sons since I broke my first vow too never touch 40k. But with the recent brutalization of the Iron Hands & Imperial Fists, the lore-twisted chaos spawn that is the Tome of Fire series, and other fluff-massacres of recent times, I fear it is inevitable that the Salamanders will soon be touched as well. So, in an effort to save my Sons of Vulkan from such a fate, I seek to take refuge in the noble Halls of Heresy. In my flight, however, I've encountered a problem. Forgeworld is extremly expensive and I lack the funds for anything more then a rather small army. While this doesn't particular bother me in gameplay of from a modeling perspective, it does somewhat limit the lore. I'd like too, ideally, have the army lead fluff-wise by Nomus Rhy'tan with some loyalist Iron Warriors and, er, Homo Sapiens Rotundus, as allies. I am at a loss as how such a force might hand together, however, while keeping the army fairly small/cheap. Therefore, I am open and eager too here any suggestion you might have, brothers! Lastly, my deepest apologies for the wall of text, I'm a somewhat long-winded person. I blame my love of long-winded short folk on this. So, if you made it this far, congrats! Thank you for your patience! *hands cookie* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Hmmm, Im not wise on the lore of the Iron Warriors, but if Im not mistaken there was a loyalist captain during the horus heresy who defended a planet from traitor attack, maybe you can attach some Imperial Army units to represent the PDF. Others might give you other better examples. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonal Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Aye, that would be the mighty Warsmith Barabas Dantioch, and as much as I'd love too include him, he's got a short story and an important role in Unremembered Empire, along with a number of rumors and theories concerning his fate. If I were too include him with my folks he might end up dead, a Grey Knight, 2nd Founding Chapter Master, etc, etc, later on and I'd have too rewrite a new Iron Warriors band. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm not sure I understand the question, but welcome!A small, cheap army would be Terminators, using the Rite of War that makes them Troops? It IS expensive thats for sure. I dont even care to tally the cost for what I have so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonal Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 The question is entirely fluff-related. Boiling down too how and why about a thousand points worth of Salamanders, five hundred points worth of loyalist Iron Warriors, and five hundred points worth of loyalist Homo Sapiens Rotundus would be fighting together. I'll be using 40k rules and the Space Marine and Grey Knights codices, by the way. Forge World books are too damn expensive and I don't think anyone around here plays with 'em. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 You could always have a pre heresy force working together, or maybe Ivastan 5 you have some iron warrior change their color and work with the loyalist. Also your not the only one worrying about their salamander forces lately, these fluff changes/direction have been worrisome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The heresy has loads of small fleets and strike forces moving about, the universe is a big place after all. A splinter fleet moving about after Istvaan V with salamanders and allied ships, that has taken in some loyalist Iron Warriors (could be an interesting story about how they first fought each other or something) and the Imperial Army was everywhere, and rotundus with them. (the human forces in Legion had a whole detachement of them to the regiment) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Homo Sapiens Rotundus - Do you mean Ratlings or Squats? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Squats Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Fatguys Homo Sapiens Beergutians Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonal Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 The Ratlings are Homo Sapiens Minimus. I'm currently thinking that a small (Demi-)Company of Iron Warriors alongside an allied Homo Sapiens Rotundus Imperial Army regiment would be holding the insolated insertnamehere Fortress World when a large-ish force of Word Bearers rolls into system looking too join up with the Iron Warriors. These Iron Warriors, you see, had served alongside these Word Bearers for a number of years in the early Great Crusade and had become close allies. Unknown too the Word Bearers, however, they had become so close that the Iron Warriors began too adopt some of the early Proto-Imperial Creed their allies had been preaching, and their close relationship with the pious-but-practical Homo Sapiens Rotundus did nothing but help. So, in the end, the Iron Warriors and Imperial Army forces hold off in a desperate last stand against the Word Bearers, at which point a band of Salamander survivors that had been tailing the traitors since Istvann come in and save the day. Barely. So the almost-obliterated Iron Warriors and their allies join up with the almost-obliterated Salamanders and make off for Terra/Macragge/Nocturne/Olympia/Elsewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284682-part-of-the-ship/#findComment-3549435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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