Spacefrisian Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Puh, 20 man fearless marines squads with feel no pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have a feeling sooner or later GW will say "Who cares you can now use HH rules in regular games of 40k". In a way, they already did. That's why there's the addendum in the Betrayal FAQ "These weren't designed for mainstream 40K, please give your opponent these concessions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 My bad I had a few to many Christmas Day, I got confused with the normal dred drop pod :P God I'm an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yeah but vehicles and units from HH armies are only usable by a Space Marines Legion army. So while yu can certainly use them in 40k, you still can't use them in a CSM army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Yeah but vehicles and units from HH armies are only usable by a Space Marines Legion army. So while yu can certainly use them in 40k, you still can't use them in a CSM army. Only for the ones that haven't received "40K" rules. For example, the Fire Raptor. It has rules for being used in a CSM army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Several 30k units got 40k rules. Fire Raptor, Spartan, etc. I expect the Charybdis will as well. But I'm not yet convinced that they'll be any good, because the closest equivalent, the dreadclaw, wasn't any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 yes. However, this new drop pod is aimed at space marines, not chaos space marines, so it will probably be good (cos marines get the best toys). Our version will probably come with daemonic possession instead of power of the machine spirit, just so you can't put an Important IC in there who gets eaten by the possessed giga drop pod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Several 30k units got 40k rules. Fire Raptor, Spartan, etc. I expect the Charybdis will as well. But I'm not yet convinced that they'll be any good, because the closest equivalent, the dreadclaw, wasn't any good.But not all of them got CSM rules. I think. Did they? I've never heard of a Chaos Caestus Assault Ram....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 The caestus was csm legal, at least in the trial rules. Not as good as the storm eagle, though. The charybdis may or may not get csm rules, but given that it's basically replacing the dreadclaw, I'd be surprised if it didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I could see some amazing conversion to the model to make it look a lot more 'chaosy'!! End of Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The caestus was csm legal, at least in the trial rules. Not as good as the storm eagle, though. The charybdis may or may not get csm rules, but given that it's basically replacing the dreadclaw, I'd be surprised if it didn't.Ah okay. I'd never heard anyone doing it so I wasn't sure if it had happened or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 You know what would be fun, if and when they redo the Dreadclaw rules, that it can embark a CSM unit of 10 of 10 of course, but instead of just a Dreadnought, a walker with 3HP max... Oh look!, a Forgefiend with 3 Ectoplasma cannons in the back of your army!..., that would be evil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Actually, I'd rather it were restricted to the dread. For one, the fiends don't look like they could fit in a drop pod/dread claw. They're too big. For another, the fiends are kind of ok already. Not good, but not lousy. But the dread is just... garbage right now. It really needs some love, and in particular something to set it apart from our other AV12 walkers, of which we have far, far too many. Something besides it's force org slot, anyway, and a drop pod deployment option would be just the ticket, imo. As for the Kharybdis, if you look at some of the comparison pics, it's pretty huge. Like, compared to the rhino in particular it looks massive. Is it possible that it's meant as not just a 'bigger' dreadclaw, but as a 'super-heavy' dreadclaw? Is it going to be a lord of war, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Actually, I'd rather it were restricted to the dread. For one, the fiends don't look like they could fit in a drop pod/dread claw. Well neither are Rhinos with 10 SM in it, or LR with 5 termies and still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Cato Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I have a feeling sooner or later GW will say "Who cares you can now use HH rules in regular games of 40k".Nope. Every single unit as a $10 dataslate. That's much more likely. Same rules with the 40k logo. *edit* wow there was a lot more thread I missed. OT : I feel like the new pod could carry a Dino bot. Would even be that game breaking in terms if physics. I'd love a drop pod mauler fiend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The caestus was csm legal, at least in the trial rules. Not as good as the storm eagle, though. The charybdis may or may not get csm rules, but given that it's basically replacing the dreadclaw, I'd be surprised if it didn't.Ah okay. I'd never heard anyone doing it so I wasn't sure if it had happened or not. Well, it's very hard to make a Chaos-ized Space Marine vehicle and make it look good (i.e. not just a Space Marine vehicle with spiky bits on it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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