L30n1d4s Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 New Cyper dataslate out and among other things, he can be taken as an Adeptus Sororitas HQ, is an IC, and grants the following to his unit: -Hit and Run -Shrouded -Infiltrate -ATSKNF/Ld10 All very useful for a Sororitas unit, be it a 20 man Battle Sister blob squad, a Battle Conclave, or a Retributor Squad with mass Heavy Flamers in an Immolator. While all these are good options, I think one of the best might be attaching Cipher to a Repentia squad, then infiltrating the whole group into 5+ or even 4+ cover near the enemy. Turn 1 they use their 3+ (or 2+) cover save to absorb enemy shooting, Cypher provides some solid overwatch (2 x BS10 Plasma Shots and 2 x BS10 Bolter Shots FTW) and close combat support if they get assaulted, and he also lets them Hit and Run out of combat if they are just being tarpitted needlessly (or they want to charge to get the +2A from Rage). Then bottom of Turn 1 (or Turn 2, if you went first), they detach from Cipher to assault a selected enemy (and use their Act of Faith, which they can't do with Cypher attached). Given lack of an Assault Transport for Sororitas armies and Repentia general fragility, I think this is quite an interesting way to get them into the fight early on without suffering excessive casualties. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabathiel Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Seems pretty expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3554932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Seems pretty heretical. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3555000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnerBeta Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I wonder why would he hang out with Sisters anyway or what would he say to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3555037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 "Hi, I'm a marine of the Dark Angels Chapter, and I need your help slaying some heretics". It's not like every sister of battle knows the names of every dark angel, or would have any reason to doubt Cypher, would they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3555129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabathiel Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Or he could just say he is an Inquisitor. Before you bring up the whole he's so big they would know he is a space marine, do note that Hector Rex who is an Inquisitor who is just as big as a space marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3555199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I'm just wondering where the 2+ cover save is coming from. While all these are good options, I think one of the best might be attaching Cipher to a Repentia squad, then infiltrating the whole group into 5+ or even 4+ cover near the enemy. Turn 1 they use their 3+ (or 2+) cover save to absorb enemy shooting, [edit] never mind. ruins and shrouded. got it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3555242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnerBeta Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 "Hi, I'm a marine of the Dark Angels Chapter, and I need your help slaying some heretics". It's not like every sister of battle knows the names of every dark angel, or would have any reason to doubt Cypher, would they? I wasn't really serious but yeah, a lone Space Marine in black armour is in no way fishy or possibly renegade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3555305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The relic blade might help. It is a loyalist primarch's signature weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3555317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 "Hi, I'm a marine of the Dark Angels Chapter, and I need your help slaying some heretics". It's not like every sister of battle knows the names of every dark angel, or would have any reason to doubt Cypher, would they? I wasn't really serious but yeah, a lone Space Marine in black armour is in no way fishy or possibly renegade. In the fluff and one of his scenarios, Cypher had actually replaced an Inquisitor who did the whole 'mysterious cowl' thing, and then issued orders and such as that individual for several months until being found out. So him being able to pretend to be a normal human isn't beyond the realm of possibility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3556597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymirl Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 "I wasn't really serious but yeah, a lone Space Marine in black armour is in no way fishy or possibly renegade." Bad news for the deathwatch then... The heresy within the dark angels isn't general knowledge. The Dark Angels have ruthlessly suppressed any rumour and kill every witness the can find. The public story is that the dark angels are totally trustworthy. Cypher appears to be a dark angel. And last time I checked he had green armour anyway, because he repainted it since the heresy no doubt. He is pretty expensive though, while the theory is sound you could simply buy more repentia and let loads die on the way and aim to get roughly the same number into hth at the end. Although I still think the most effective way to deploy repentia is a display shelf... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3556852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnerBeta Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 "Hi, I'm a marine of the Dark Angels Chapter, and I need your help slaying some heretics". It's not like every sister of battle knows the names of every dark angel, or would have any reason to doubt Cypher, would they? I wasn't really serious but yeah, a lone Space Marine in black armour is in no way fishy or possibly renegade. In the fluff and one of his scenarios, Cypher had actually replaced an Inquisitor who did the whole 'mysterious cowl' thing, and then issued orders and such as that individual for several months until being found out. So him being able to pretend to be a normal human isn't beyond the realm of possibility. It was a joke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3556940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Seems a bit gimmicky to me but Repentia could do with a leg up so why not give it a go? I'll be interested in hearing how it went if someone does try it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3557601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 This was just shared with me, and I feel it's very appropriate. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/IK%20and%2040K/Sororitas/1560644_263187520505103_844366059_n_zps11a23693.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3558194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 While not Sisters, I feel this is an appropriate response to Miko's appropriate response. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3558711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallodx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Cypher: Hey, sisters. Want to see some Heresy? Sister: HERESY! YES, BRING US! WE WILL KILL THEM, WE WILL BURN THEM, WE WILL PURGE THEM IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR! Cyphter:...Damn it... Yeah, follow me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3558727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/Forum%20Comments/MikoUnimpressed-1.png While you're at it, give us your awesome pistol rules. IF anyone deserves awesome melee pistol rules, its our seraphim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3562315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/Forum%20Comments/MikoUnimpressed-1.png While you're at it, give us your awesome pistol rules. IF anyone deserves awesome melee pistol rules, its our seraphim. Cypher was rockin' dual pistols before the first seaphim's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother/father was even born. I'm sure there's some convent of Sororitas that DO have the skill to pull off Cypher's moves though. Likely because long ago Cypher himself trained them as part of one of his schemes . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3562365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/Forum%20Comments/MikoUnimpressed-1.png While you're at it, give us your awesome pistol rules. IF anyone deserves awesome melee pistol rules, its our seraphim. Cypher was rockin' dual pistols before the first seaphim's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother/father was even born. I'm sure there's some convent of Sororitas that DO have the skill to pull off Cypher's moves though. Likely because long ago Cypher himself trained them as part of one of his schemes . And that's why seraphim don't have BS 10 :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3562659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Hisop Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Cypher only shoots twice in the shooting phase so he only kicks out one plasma and one bolt pistol shot on over-watch but your point mostly stands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284965-cypher-and-repentia/#findComment-3568475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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