Kol Saresk Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Ech. Too much good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Because, in a universe of grimdark, success equals happiness. All must suffer. All must burn. :D But if that is what is wanted, then it can't be all suffering and burning, because then you would be successful. So therefore, I am right that there is a time conspiracy surrounding Zso Sahaal, entire timelines here and gone by the actions of one Night Lord, who doesn't remember his actions because he never committed them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Yeah, but I'm the one who is successful. And that's whats important. Priorities man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Yeah, but I'm the one who is successful. And that's whats important. Priorities man. Priorities, like your favored Legion, the Night Lords? WINNING. I believe the questions have been answered, unless someone has a follow-up, so perhaps we should stop Jeffing each other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Supposedly, there's a DA-successor chapter which is busy pulling off a 13th Great Company. Haven't managed to buy the dataslate yet though, so it might be slightly off. It's not quite like that. *SPOILER* So we don't really know what happened to that Chapter. They could be pulling off a 13th Great Company... or they could all be dead. Either way, it's a story that illustrates that Cypher is not necessarily an enemy to the Dark Angels. Whoa... That spoiler, where did that come from? The new dex, the Cypher data slate, or some obscure source? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Cypher dataslate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 It's a story that proves that Cypher is the Ultimate Troll. In the grim darknessnof the future, there are only bridges to live under. And wars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 In the grim darkness of the far future, bridge salesmen got it made. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 To the original post: I don't think one can simply "use" Chaos. That would be like me saying, "Crack? Yeah, I use crack, but only in dire circumstances and it TOTALLY doesn't affect my like those other guys." Chaos is by it's very nature a corrupting influence. I imagine that the more you use it, the more susceptible to the corruption you become. A decentish example would be a librarian that just once, barters for a boost in power, though his need is dire. He's done it once, he will more than likely do it gain. As to the rest of the arguments contained herein, I'm not even going to bother with that big can of worms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Does cypher use the warp like the elder like disappearing and stuff Like he does in rise of tau ( yes i know it's fan made I'm just curious Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Cypher gets whisked away by some higher power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3555792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 The laughing god Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3556308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It was MaLOL, Malal's annoying trickster twinface. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3556363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Night Lord individuals use chaos, they are exceptions and they are looked down upon by many other NLs who have nothing to do with chaos(there are always a warband exception here and there). I think its pretty fair to say the various warbands of the NL spend little time in the Eye except maybe to trade or for repairs. Alpha Legion is in the same boat, they cant do their shenanigans of they are in the Eye and somewhere I read they have hidden bases all over the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3557421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Actually, according to the Night Lords' IA articles, one of the "surprising things" was how pure the VIII Legion gene-seed was despite the amount of warp exposure. The same IA article that said while they shunned worship of the Dark Gods, they had no problem trading their souls for material power. The Night Lords were not "anti-Chaos". They were "anti-worship". That's why for the longest time they were called the atheist Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3557442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The World Bearers praised the space gods while the Night Lords negotiated with the space power brokers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3557473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yep. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3557566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Bottom line, and this really applies to pretty much anything not just this particular topic, unless something appears explicitly, in print, from BL, during the course of the HH series, then all possibilities are open. Case in point, Omegon... SPOILER ALERT We have hints that he is the loyalist whilst Alpharius has come to actually enjoy the role they have to supposedly play instead of seeing it as a vital outcome, Now until the very end and we are told, on a page, in text, that Omegon is just as much of a traitor and it's all been for :cuss and giggles, then if someone wants to play a XX Legion force of loyalists they are perfectly entitled to. Night Lords are a bit trickier since they're barely loyal to each other never mind a collapsing Imperium but that doesn't mean they're all going to run into the night branding themselves with the 8 pointed star. If anyone really feels that strongly that B should always follow A and water must be wet etc etc etc I recommend reading this since it perfectly sums up the existence of the so called Chaos Marines. Note that they're called the Traitor Legions, not Chaos Legions for a reason Just my 2p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284977-legions-that-eventually-decided-to-use-chaos/page/2/#findComment-3557579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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