skeletoro Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 In imperial armour 2, to take more than one relic vehicle you need to take a 'keeper of relics'. For SW, this means a rune priest with Saga of the beastslayer. Any thoughts on modelling such an individual? I would have expected an iron priest would be the keeper of relics, to be honest! I have ordered myself a finecast Master of Relics model, and thought that with extensive conversion, it could make a really interesting and characterful rune priest. Unfortunately... I just noticed that RPs can't take combi weapons without TDA. So now I'll either replace the combi plasma, or else use this model for something else and put the backpack etc aside for my keeper. The forge world praetor set looks quite interesting. The swords look very beautiful and could easily be relic rune weapons, and I am wondering about using the archaeotech pistol simply as an ancient pistol that counts as a bolt pistol. Has anybody else been thinking of adding a keeper of relics to their army, and how have you modelled them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Do you have a link for this figure? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif-thunderstand Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Well... I am thinking about it.. Maybe i 'll take a ironpriest for this job.. But right now my army just got an Landraider crusader and an razorback. Both are part of my latest wip and so even notyet painted. I need some more vehicles that gives the ironpriest a sense. (or maybe a keeper of relics) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 wth is a relic vehicle anyway? rulewise? never before have I heard of this... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Relic vehicles are those models that Forge World has been putting out for 30K. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 o 30k vehicles used in 40k are relic vehicles? or... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 some are, including the javelin attack speeder and fire raptor. They're all in IA2. You can only take more than one relic vehicle if you include a keeper of relics: a rune priest with saga of the beast slayer. Here's a link to the master of relics I bought: Ok its not letting me paste a link in here.. :( the model is called master of relics. Its a space marine captain released for apocalypse Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 It wasnt an Iron Priest because they arent HQs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Okay found it on the GW site. So this is a Captain. Does it say in IA2 that the SW equivalent is a Rune Priest with SotBS? Would make more sense to be a Wolf Guard Battle Leader. That is our version of a Captain, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Yeah, but this is an exercise in making a keeper of relics (rather than 'what can I use this model for'). I figured a rune priest with a dash of 'techmarine-lite' and some early Mk armour could work quite well. The model is a captain with a dash of techmarine-light and Mk v, but it shouldn't be too hard to convert (add a runic weapon and maybe a psychic hood). Actually easier than converting a librarian because they tend to have pesky flowing robes, etc. Yeah, the book specifies: rune priest with SotBS. And I agree, Grey Mage, that is probably why, but it is still weird. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3555817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 a lot of the divination effect could be attributed to various aming devices etc made by the iron priest ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3556481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Hmm, true... At the moment I'm thinking of relegating the combi weapon to the bits box and just giving the model a badass runic weapon instead. Maybe using the thunderlord frost axe for it? I just got a Dremel and am itching to start engraving runes on things ;) The model has some cables running out of his back that are supposed to connect to the combi weapon. I will either have to remove them or connect them somewhere - perhaps either to his wrist or somewhere on the axe (though that seems terribly impractical) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3556558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 how about dremeling away the combi section to turn it into a standard bolter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3556595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 I've been tempted to do that, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3556672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Okay found it on the GW site. So this is a Captain. Does it say in IA2 that the SW equivalent is a Rune Priest with SotBS? Would make more sense to be a Wolf Guard Battle Leader. That is our version of a Captain, right? Actually, to point things out, a Wolf Lord is the equivalent of a Captain; the Wolf Guard Battle Leader is a second, an HQ slot that's more like an Aide de camp, than anything else. The Great Wolf is the Chapter Master; the SW's have one Great Wolf, also a WL, and then 11 other WL's, with WGBL's as they choose from amongst their WG. WGBL, WG, and WGPL are all chosen by the WL of each Great Company as their personal champions, leading by example such that the rest of the Great Company benefits from their guidance. Wolf Priests, Iron Priests and Rune Priests are all attached from the Great Wolf's Company; this section also includes Other units, mentioned in your Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3557194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif-thunderstand Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 This diferent kinds of captains are just like WL/WGBL, where to SW the equipment makes the diference. And we all know: SW are individualists. So as the matter o' a fact: we got much more diferent types of "captains". For exemple : WL on twm with twin-wolfclaws and the sotw and two fw-folowers makes the extra wolfy type . And so on... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3557541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 *Hands his frosty mug of fenrisian ale off to an attending bloodclaw* Drink it and get zapped kid. Y'all aint gonna believe this :cuss but, believe it or not, there was a time when there was something in C:SM below a captain called a 'commander'. The 'commander' had stats similar to a WGBL. They werent captains, they were just bad :cuss and in charge. Much like our WGBLs. *ZAP*... I warned you. *picks up mug and goes back to sipping* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3558223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif-thunderstand Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 *saluting Grey Mage with the meathorn* Thanks. That just fits it real good (and even better than the SM Captains) What good time it was with the older codizes of CSM.... Generals as the real genious of badass after demonprince and Comanders as the poor kind of Generals (WGBL like) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3558289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 *nods* When aspiring champions led warbands, not squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3558945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif-thunderstand Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Still the way some wgbl's are used. Leading warbands... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3559016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Grey Mage, was this the reason 3rd Edition had the 750 point sections for army building included once we just started playing around with those? Or at least, for SW's as the above, that is here. I know 3rd Ed. has been out for a while for me, sure seems like forever and yesterday that this was the case and way it was... Also some of how the HQ rules worked was very different back then. SW's needed an HQ every 750 points of the army; 1,500 was two HQ, no more, no less, and 2,000 was three, no more, no less. Unless this was 2nd or before, which I sadly never had a chance to play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3559031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obs0l3te Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 For the record its a WOLF Priest, not a RUNE Priest that you need to take. And you may only take ONE relic vehicle according to the rule. (I have the book its awesome! Almost a must have for Wolves/Marines) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3562302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Uhh, I suggest you re-read? I just double checked my book and it says rune priest. Unless there is some relevant errata I am unaware of? Also, it's one relic only, but you can take more if you take the keeper of relics (no need to take a keeper if you just take 1). Wording is perhaps a little funky but that is what I get from it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3562535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Aye im pretty sure its 1 relic vehicle, then for each keeper you can take another. However seen as though we cant take more than one rune priest with SotBeastslayer (i think??), that limits us to 2 relic vehicles max in an army. But to be fair, i dont think i need to field more than two fire raptors ha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3562607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 i don't think it say one per additional. Its more like 'if you take more than one then you must also take...' so i think its 1 relic requires nothing, 2+ relics requires one keeper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284984-ia2-keeper-of-relics/#findComment-3562907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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