HsojVvad Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I am hoping one day when I get to it, that I will actually have a Cypher mini. I don't have the model, and want to custom build Cypher for now before I go out and buy his data slate. I haven't really put together my Dark Vengeance set yet. I was thinking of using the Librarian, the one with the hood and he is pointing as my Cypher. (Here I thought I finally got a Librarian :P) and instead of having a sword, it would be a pistol. So my question is, is there an army I can use with a pistol in the DV set, or maybe the old DA veteran set that I can use for him? What else should I be including? What colour is his armour now? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSturrock Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Been thinking about this myself. I think you could mostly make him from the Vet sprue. Add in a plasma pistol and bolt pistol (everyone should have spares of both). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Exhibit A. http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/20131227_111040_zps8f8fa7f2.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/20131227_111104_zps9808a610.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/20131227_111116_zpsbce0ec90.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/20131227_111134_zps28c94dca.jpg Enjoy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Integral Cypher attributes; 1- Hooded cloak/robes 2- Ornate and Ancient Plasma and Bolt pistols 3- Sheathed Sword that is never drawn 4- Every official piece of artwork and painted model have Cypher in dark green armour Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Noctic Cornix, that is freaking awesome. Can't wait to see it painted up. Thanks Ian Sturrock and Grotsmasha, I will check it out and see if I have what you guys said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I never understood why they had him in Dark Green. Legion color was black. The only thought I have is that the loyalists who were on Caliban when Luther turned painted their armor a different color. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I never understood why they had him in Dark Green. Legion color was black. The only thought I have is that the loyalists who were on Caliban when Luther turned painted their armor a different color. Yep, Cypher's Dataslate says that DA who rejected Luther's message repainted their armour. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Which can only mean that Cypher is in fact a loyalist. Or he's so deep undercover even the Alpha Legion would have no idea what's going on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Who is he a loyalist to though? If Cypher is the last remaining Knight of Lupus, I can see him being anti-Luther, anti-Chaos and pro-Lion, but he may still not be pro-Imperium. Then again, I'm fairly certain that pro-Imperial stance isn't all that high on the list of priorities for the Dark Angels any more either. The questions of loyalties and motivations are part of what makes me like this continuing Legion so much more than the others who are clearly good Imperialists or Chaos without a lot of grey. "We stand between the darkness and the light." It causes the DA/Unforgiven to be cast in a little shadow... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The actual cypher mini isn't all that bad. The hands are awful, but the arms are entirely separate pieces, so you could substitute them for something a little more modern and refined. The robes/body/sword bit of the standard GW mini still stands up to modern tests IMHO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Which can only mean that Cypher is in fact a loyalist. Or he's so deep undercover even the Alpha Legion would have no idea what's going onNah, he's secretly Alpharius.Who is he a loyalist to though?The Lion. He owns his entire existence to the Lion."We stand between the darkness and the light." It causes the DA/Unforgiven to be cast in a little shadow...E Tenebrae Lux. From darkness [comes] light. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 There is another ongoing topic to discuss Cypher's background. Keep this one solely for a discussion on how to model him. That way nothing gets duplicated or missed. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284953-post-your-cypher/:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Integral Cypher attributes; 1- Hooded cloak/robes 2- Ornate and Ancient Plasma and Bolt pistols 3- Sheathed Sword that is never drawn 4- Every official piece of artwork and painted model have Cypher in dark green armour Cheers, Jono The hardest part for me to duplicate, which I also thought was iconic, is his chest skeleton. If not for that he would be fairly straight forward to create on your own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The hardest part for me to duplicate, which I also thought was iconic, is his chest skeleton. If not for that he would be fairly straight forward to create on your own. If you can get your hands on this, the third guy in has a winged skeleton chest piece, IIRC. Cut, sculpt robes (easier said than done for me) and viola! Different Cypher chest plate with winged skeleton. Better than the plain skeleton IMO. Actually, the first guy shown here also has the same chest plate, I think, and has an awesome skull beakie helm for a Chaplain conversion. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elodin Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 If I ever make a Cypher I'm going to use the Veteren box as has already been suggested. You get a good deal of extra DA bits from it and the Vet. sculpt that's walking forward looks pretty awesome and fits well with the character imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3556608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Bought the interactive version for Cypher. I like it, I am thinking if I ever get back into gaming, I will now have to get the interactive version of the rules. Is it worth it for those who bought it? I love the pop up rules so I don't have to look throughout what the special rules do. That said, I finally noticed Cypher had a skeleton on his chest. Was it always there? Have I been blind? Haven't read the entire data slate yet. Is there an explanation for the skeleton on Cyhper's chest? If so what page? Please don't say why, I would like to be surprised for myself IF it is there. Also how can I model that skeleton on? Green stuff? Any "bits" I could use to do this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3558567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The skeleton has always been there yes. It's also reproduced on his bag pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285029-how-to-make-cypher/#findComment-3558836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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