Darkseer Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 In Prospero Burns, Lord Gunn says to Kasper Hauser "If we were like that, we would all be dead by now" as part of his "It takes a lot of self control to be this dangerous" speach. Has anyone else noticed that there aren't many Space Wolves from Terra in the Legion anymore? 2 of them are Dreadnoughts (Kormek Dodd springs to mind) and the other is "Long Fang", a Rune Priest. But that's it. While other Legions have quite a lot of Terrans in them. Is Lord Gunn's statement referring to a previous incarnation of their Legion where they actually "were like that" and actually are "all dead by now" ? I'm looking at this from the point of view that all the Legions changed in warfare and culture when they found their Primarchs and started recruiting from their Primarch's worlds. Just wondered if any fluff bunnies knew of other references to this sort of stuff... or if there is material about the Space Wolves from Terra before they started recruiting from Fenris. And what were their Legion called before they recruited from Fenris and became the "Vlka Fenryka" ? Aaaah, so many questions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Before the Legions were reunited with their Primarchs and thus renamed they did not have a name per se. It was just Legion. So SW were the VI Legion or Legion VI before they foun their way to Fenris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3559557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rylanor Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I too would like to know more about the VI Legion before the arrival on Fenris. we know that some Legions had names prior to discovering their Primarch, such as the War Hounds and Dusk Raiders. maybe Forge World will put something in their Horus Heresy books for us :-) Rylanor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3559599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 There is no info about the 6th pre discovery of Russ at this time. No name, numbers, colors anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3561775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 There is no info about the 6th pre discovery of Russ at this time. No name, numbers, colors anything. Basically this. Looking to see much more about their pre-Russ history when the book drops this year for the HH. I have a feeling that some people are going to be extremely happy and others are going to be extremely pissed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3562974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I have a feeling that some people are going to be extremely happy and others are going to be extremely pissed. That's pretty much a given, when GW finally fleshes out an area of the background material that has previously been left uncovered (for over 25 years). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3562979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I don't think there will be much about the VIth pre Russ. Just simply because he's been with his legion longer than most of his kin, second only to Horus. That being said I was always curious about the stability of the Canis Helix in the Terran Wolves, mayhaps that has something to do with the low number of Terrans in the legion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3563908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I don't think there will be much about the VIth pre Russ. Just simply because he's been with his legion longer than most of his kin, second only to Horus. That being said I was always curious about the stability of the Canis Helix in the Terran Wolves, mayhaps that has something to do with the low number of Terrans in the legion? It has been surmised that the stability of the Canis Helix with the Terran Wolves was due to the fact that the Emperor was there to make sure things stayed on track. In addition at that time, the recruitment and implantation process was much more controlled and slower paced as opposed to during the GC and HH for that matter when it was being done on home planets and not in the labs of Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3564647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 That being said I was always curious about the stability of the Canis Helix in the Terran Wolves, mayhaps that has something to do with the low number of Terrans in the legion? There is nothing in the fluff, that I am aware of, to indicate the Canis Helix is any more, or any less, stable in Space Wolves recruited from Fenris, Terra, or any other world. So far it simply hasn't been addressed. What has been addressed is simply that the Canis Helix is highly unstable and has less to the untimely deaths of millions of recruits. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3565006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 That being said I was always curious about the stability of the Canis Helix in the Terran Wolves, mayhaps that has something to do with the low number of Terrans in the legion? There is nothing in the fluff, that I am aware of, to indicate the Canis Helix is any more, or any less, stable in Space Wolves recruited from Fenris, Terra, or any other world. So far it simply hasn't been addressed. What has been addressed is simply that the Canis Helix is highly unstable and has less to the untimely deaths of millions of recruits. V Off the top of my head, I remember reading that the Wolf Brothers had this issue. That all of the non Fenrisian recruits fell to "the wolf inside" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3565202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'd like to think the Pre-Fenris and Russ 6th legion was led by Terran born Imperial Commander Enoch and that the 6th legion had a mobile lunar base called Lucan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3566324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm in agreement with Brother Ramses interpretation, it's not based off of anything direct but an educated guess based off of the existing framework. Maybe we'll get solid answers, maybe not. It was cool to see what the Salamanders were like before discovering Vulkan in the HH book 2, makes me want to do a small 30k force of "The Fearless" featuring darker green armor bearing the saturnine ram on their shoulders! ... anywho if there's any info on the Space Wolves before they were the Space Wolves that would be cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285195-loads-of-fluff-questions/#findComment-3566833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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