badgermeister Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hi folks I like to dabble a little here and there on the net and noticed that the 30k army lists are few and infrequent to include a primarch. give or take that primarchs are pretty popular on the sales front according to FW - are people just painting them or adding them 'on occasion' to spice a game up. i've just ordered my first primarch (Lorgar) and wanted to get a good giste of how to create a primarch led army list but feel a little empty handed. whats peoples experiences so far? obviously they will attract a shed load of fire but how devastating can they be? good to introduce at 2500 or is the starting point 3k? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 We usually play 2000pts and I usually face angron if im playing our worldeater guys, none of the other legions we play regularly have primarchs yet :( Generally a spartan and a unit of terminators or command squad is probably the best way to field him ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3560182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 i've bought him to develop my painting a little further on but will look at a viable 2-2.5k build on him. my copy of massacre is at home a few thousand miles away but i have a copy of betrayal with me so i'll play around with it. I understand he's a big buffer as opposed to being a combat beast so i'm guessing manpower is what i need to focus on. Spartans are to be considered mandatory if he hasnt got terminator armour surely? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3560236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'll be running Ferrus Manus once he's built and painted up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3560461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Teeth Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I have Ferrus for my Iron Hands... but no plans to use him in any list I've written. This, I guess, is for several reasons: - It'll be years before he's painted (and can't be assembled till painted), - I'm unconvinced about his battlefield effectiveness, - ...even if he is good, I like tanks and am more likely to use them properly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3560555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'll be running all of them eventually Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3560701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 i drew up a provisional list using Lorgar last night at 2k level - as suggested by the rules book when LoW be introduced. Its nigh on impossible to get a dark brethren list done due to the demands of having a second mandatory HQ in the form of centurion/chaplain consul and sticking a diabolist in too. i'll post it later today in the army list when i've cleared this mornings emails/paperwork in the office I'm not too sure the weaker version is worth taking as the psychic powers are pretty important and i dont want magic beans. the limits on 1 x heavy choice is really limiting. I want a list with real punch and its turning out a nightmare :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3560842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son of Magnus Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I use mine in most heresy games above 2K. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3561551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I probably won't use Sanguinius (or Russ, if I get my Wolves going) all that much, as I tend to make army backgrounds away from the famous named Special Characters. Just a personal preference. I'd feel weird fielding Sanguinius or Abaddon or whoever in every battle, though part of that is that practically every game I play in either gets its own narrative (which I know isn't unusual), or is part of our campaign. People throwing down primarchs or big name characters more than "occasionally" tends to make the galaxy feel a bit small. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3561585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Maybe so, but you need to tell FW to stop making awesome models for them. :lol: If one gets the model, then one really wants to test it in battle. If you have a Primarch in your collection, do you want him to gather dust or get him stuck in? And frankly a Primarch should have been as unusual a sight as any named Character... or unnamed for that matter. Think about it: Eidolon is just one man, so showing up in every game makes the Universe a bit small... But what about the Commander of the 18th Millennial? Wouldn't he be a unique Character from an in-Universe perspective? Just because there is no story about him, doesn't make him any less unique or strange to use him in every game - he's still one man. In the case of SoH we have named Captains for, what? ten-odd companies? Just because they get a mention does that make them more unique than those who don't? :D What I'm saying is that from an in-Universe perspective, one man is one man and just as unlikely to be in every engagement as the next... As it happens, thanks to BL books, we get the feeling that Primarchs were indeed hands-on when it came to battle - fighting in the front line with their troops (and not always in big engagements - the Lion took a small force to Diamat for example). It's not like they took on the battlefield once and using them would be taking liberties with the background... Having the Sigilite in every engagement on the other hand, would.. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3561596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallodx Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 All makes sense, but I think heroes meet each others and have an epic fight is what we are expecting! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3561617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 this goes out to 40k though in general - only 1 x marneus calgar and he's in every battle that seems to have ever happened. i dont think you'd see a primarch in battle without at least a couple of hundred marines at his side but the battles we play i assume represent a smaller portion of a larger battlefield and we focus on a key engagement. As he's my first primarch i just want him for the painting challenge but i have come up with a reasonable 2k list and we start 30k gaming in the club this year (i have admech as well). I'm sure when the Gal Vorbak get released i'll drop my jaw and place another huge order on resin crack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285215-using-a-primarch-are-people-really-using-them-frequently/#findComment-3561645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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