badgermeister Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Hi folks i've popped my primarch cherry with ordering Lorgar and wanted to see how he can be placed in a 2000 point army list as a realistic LoW. Lorgar (in the superior version, puppet master, invisibility, vortex of doom) 450 Chaplain Consul 85 Diabolist - Hvy Chainsword 95 Dark Martyr/9 Brethren, pair of lightning claws, 2 x power weapons, Artificier armour 400 15 Tac squad 200 15 Tac squad 200 10 Legion Breacher, 2 x grav guns 255 Spartan + armoured ceramite 315 I went for a dark brethren build and i feel that this list is just crap. Some of the great buffs i should have i cant squeeze in because of the necessity to have a chaplain and a diabolist. I feel i need the spartan taxi for lorgar and the brethren to cut about in. Please comment and critique - i feel the only answer is to look at 2500pts for this guy as a realistic start point though. Considering the diabolist has potential to lose me the scoring potential on one of my troops its a bad bad way to go :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285272-word-bearers-2000pts-with-lorgar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsanguis Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Perhaps get rid of the Breacher Squad for some long range AT, like a few Predator's of varying loadouts. I'd also consider some Rapier Laser Destroyers. EDIT: You could probably even reduce the Gal Vorbak a bit to include a few more things. If Lorgar is attached to them, they're probably going to annihilate anything they touch short of other Primarch/bodyguard units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285272-word-bearers-2000pts-with-lorgar/#findComment-3560957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 i hate the idea of having all my eggs in one basket running Lorgar this way. i've already got a couple of rapiers so i can squeeze them in easy enough. At the moment this list is theoretical and can never go over 2.5k as i'm likely to face a warhound at 3k (i know this because thats my mechanicus army list). I suspect i'll see how the math hammer comes along when i've got some time. 2k is really appealing and skipping the idea off doing a dark brethren Rite of War is going to be a necessity to free up some points and give me a heavy slot allocation i can use instead of being limited to 1 x heavy choice :( i may drop the Gal Vorbak as suggested - in 2k this may just be complete overkill Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285272-word-bearers-2000pts-with-lorgar/#findComment-3560997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsanguis Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yeh, just hope someone doesn't play Sallies and bring a Firedrake deathstar :| or Iron Hands cyber familiar command squad! I'm finding the RoW for the different Legion's to be practically useless at 2k and under. Might be worth just doing Pride of the Legion and having Lorgar smash face with a Vet squad or Termy block. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285272-word-bearers-2000pts-with-lorgar/#findComment-3561011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Are you dead set on the dark brethren? 10 of them plus Lorgar is overkill and they might destroy a squad only to be left out in the open to get gunned down. Easily switch out the brethren for a squad of termies as they are durable and SCORING. A squad of 10 kitted out should still be 50ish points less than the brethren and all have power weapons and invulns. I think it should be: Lorgar 5 terminators with plasma blaster, twin lighting claws, power swords, and maybe 1 axe but Lorgar has ap2 at initiative already Attach the chaplain and diabolical and add terminator armor for extra lulz. With those 195 points you saved, pick up a cheap squad of 5 guys with missile launchers for 160. Drop the ceramite on the spartan for a flare shield as few people seem to have meltaguns, but have an abundance of missiles and lascannons Switch your breachers for a squad of assault marines with some power weapons which adds mobility to your list, gives you another scoring unit, and can take advantage of the word bearers special assault rules. I would throw the chappy with these guys I'll write u a list after dinner haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285272-word-bearers-2000pts-with-lorgar/#findComment-3561383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 HQ -Lorgar Ascended 450 -Chaplain 110 +crozius sword, melta bombs, jump pack -Diabolist 85 Elites -5 cataphractii terminators 205 +plasma blaster, 1 with twin lightning claws, 2 power axes, 2 power swords +Spartan (dedicated transport, flare shield) 320 Troops -15 tactical marines 200 -15 tactical marines 200 -10 assault marines 260 +sarge with power axe Heavy -5 heavy weapon marines 160 +5 missile launchers That's 1990 so you have 10 points to give, so either AA on the chaplain, or a weapon for the diabolist Sorry for the long posts, hope that helps :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285272-word-bearers-2000pts-with-lorgar/#findComment-3561438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 looks good depth charge - thanks for your efforts. After realising that RoW isnt really an option i cam up with this Lorgar Ascended 450 Chaplain Consul 85 Diabolist - Heavy Chainsword 95 5 x Gal Vorbak - Pair of lightning claws, Arti Armour 230 2 x Laser Rapiers 110 20 Tac Sqd + Dark Channeling 275 20 Tac Sqd 250 10 Breacher Sqd + 2 Grav Guns 255 Vindicator 120 Vindicator 120 = 1990 i realise i have no transport which may be an issue but i have alot of bodies to buff from the diabolist with dark channeling and Lorgar's Invisibility, puppet master and vortex of doom. Lorgar benefits when in LoS and not being in a vehicle. Assuming that my opponent will target Lorgar from the outset i can use this opportunity to get everything else into place. this list makes the next 500 points an easy purchase with it being to bump up the Gaol Vorbak in numbers and put a Spartan in. If i was playing on my home board it wouldnt be too bad as i have a FW city board - at the club i'm feth'ed if very little terrain turns up :( This will be a slow build army if i commit to it - i have a ad mech list to paint and build upon and already a mass of DKOK to finish Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285272-word-bearers-2000pts-with-lorgar/#findComment-3561562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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