Uprising Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The disappearance of Vulkan, Russ, corax, and, Khârn will probably never be explain but I can not shake this idea about Vulkans fate in the 40k lore. I do not know if this is the right sub-forum, but it deal within the scouring era and is about a primarch. I also like to state this is a theory that is unlikely to be ever disprove or prove true. I believe that Vulkan fate is a sad one. He is in the collection of Trazyn being a simple action figure in a collection. I have five points that make me believe this. In the codex entry it states "Giant man wearing baroque power armour" , which provides three points. Trazyn has fought and collected space marines on countless, but to describe it as being a giant makes me believe this marine is unique and larger then a normal marine. Primarch are on a simple level a giant version of marines. Point two is the word baroque, an adjective for highly decorative. Vulkan was know for his art in the forge, a master artisan. This ties in with point three, power armour. Vulkan wears power armour most of the time, a baroque one at that. The other two points of the theory, is that twice has Trazyan personality tried to steal the relics of vulkan personally. Trazyan is like any nerd and his collection, he hates leaving them alone and would rather dust off his collection then fight. He tried stealing the spear of vulkan twice, but failed. Why go to the trouble of stealing this? Secondly if you have an action figure, you would also want to have accessory to complete the collection. Finally, what is rarer than a primarch in mint condition with no chaos corruption or with all their body parts attached? Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Usabius Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 This theory is very intresting indeed, just, Trazyn if didn't manage to get the spear of Vulkan, how could he have defeated the Primarch himself? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 He used a fork. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Trazyn is very powerful like the same league as the silent king and isn't he like mega powerful Correct me if I'm wrong I don't know much about neurons except of the war of the first Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well he is an overlord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fission Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Lol Wade : a power fork ? Uprising : I suppose you havn't read Vulkan Lives ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored_Astartes Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 He used a fork. The fork of death? Master Crafted? A spork? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefect Apollyon Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Trazyn is not described as on par with the Silent King (who is probably on par with a Primarch). He's just an epic troll. I do think this theory has merit. It's almost certainly meant to be one of the Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I agree with point 1, as I had the same thought when I first read it (not Vulkan, just a Primarch) but disagree with point 2. Baroque is just used as a descriptive word, I don't think it's being used as a subtle clue. Hell it could fit any Primarchs armour, as leaders of Legions they are all going to have some pretty fancy armour. Also baroque style is more flamboyant/extravagant, which doesn't fit with Vulkan's style or the way taught by the Promethean Creed. Point 3, Vulkan wears power armour... aye and so do millions of other Space Marines and all of the Primarchs, plus there are Space Marines that were near in height to Primarchs and vice-versa. As for Trazyn wanting the Spear of Vulkan, it's a super weapon/relic crafted by a Primarch, why would a collector of artefacts not want it? Interesting theory and it could be Vulkan, there's no evidence to say it isn't, but I don't really see how any of this evidence says it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Unremembered gives a possible way of capturing vulkan. Shoot him into small pieces Put them on a chair Wait for vulkan to reform Activate the stasis field. It at least gives us an end for the immortal primarch, other than the oft over used gave up his immortality for some sob story or another. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Isn't baroque a Shade of blue or purple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I shouldn't do this. I shouldn't, but I am. "You'd think if Treyzn's giant had baroque armor...he'd fix it!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Isn't baroque a Shade of blue or purple Baroque is a style, similar to gothic. It could be blue, purple, green, yellow, magenta, violet, azure, cerulean, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think Wade was making a funny, I chuckled out loud! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosco Toppings Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 He used a fork. The Fork of Horripilation Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3561861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Also isn't power armour from a STC? So Power armour existed a long time ago in the Golden Age... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Sounds Good. I like the attempt to read between the lines. I am one to think the answers to most of the big questions we all have are right before our eyes. I agree though it could be any number of primarchs other then The Lion, Fulgrim, Perturabo, The Night Haunter,Sanguinius, Ferrus Manus, Angron, Guilliman, Mortarion, Magnus, Horus,Lorgar, or Alpharius perhaps.Of the remaining Vulkan, would be the best guess. The Kahn, Russ, Dorn and Corax could also be the collected but why go through all the effort to get Vulkan's spear en all. If the one we talk about /IS/ a Primarch then ill give ya a 75% chance at being right. . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I would 100% disagree that it is a Primarch!! the paragraph below the one you are referring to in the codex completely debunks the idea of Trazyn having a Primarch as part of his collection. If I recall correctly it states " most impressive of all Solemnace;s wonders are the prismatic galleries". Obviously if Trazyn had a Primarch in the collection at the Solemnace galleries, it would clearly and without a doubt be the "most impressive". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I would 100% disagree that it is a Primarch!! the paragraph below the one you are referring to in the codex completely debunks the idea of Trazyn having a Primarch as part of his collection. If I recall correctly it states " most impressive of all Solemnace;s wonders are the prismatic galleries". Obviously if Trazyn had a Primarch in the collection at the Solemnace galleries, it would clearly and without a doubt be the "most impressive"."Most impressive" is a sentiment, not a fact. As such, it would lie to the eye of the beholder. For example, if an eldar were in Trezyn's position, he'd collect a Primarch because they were rare, not because he placed any value on it. Sometimes that is just what a collector does; they collect objects of rarity simply because it might be the only time they have a chance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I always assumed it was a Custodian. Larger than a space marine, wears intricately baroque power armour, bam. A Bazillion year old collection is gonna have some fun tidbits, but a Primarch? My suspension of belief only stretches so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I always assumed it was a Custodian. Larger than a space marine, wears intricately baroque power armour, bam. A Bazillion year old collection is gonna have some fun tidbits, but a Primarch? My suspension of belief only stretches so far.Maybe its a Power Ranger! Wait, they aren't tall enough..... or at least the human ones aren't....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The real reason Trazyn keeps it in stasis, all that attitude. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Also isn't power armour from a STC? So Power armour existed a long time ago in the Golden Age... Yes that's a true I think yet trazyn is more then 60 million years old Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 But he has only been awake for a relatively short period of time. Whoever the giant is, he technically only just acquired him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Maybe it's Valdor.... Or Sevatar :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285279-the-fate-of-vulkan/#findComment-3562320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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