Grimm Blade Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/Untitled1_zps86f0e7e0.jpg Well Met Brothers! I am putting together a Space Hulk specific Death Wing force complete with custom bases and eventually individual write ups in the same fashion as the BAs supplied with the game. I am using the Dark Vengeance TDA models and DW Command squad. I am having fun with the conversions, but I am struggling when it comes to making my Ezekiel terminator. I want him to be recognizable as the character so I will be modelling him with traitor's bane, his signature facemask/bionic eye, heraldry, and books, but wanted your feed back as to whether or not I should sculpt his robes in the same way as the power armoured model, or go for a more open looking robe which is more common amongst our Tactical Dreadnaught Armoured brethren... In the mean time, here are 5 of the bases that I have created to date: http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/DWB010.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Is not about modeling, but have you looked at this yet? Might have some stuff that interests you. As far as Ezekiel, I would go for a tabard and cape, or tabard across both front and back, to better match the rest of the units, since he doesn't actually wear TDA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3562248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thank you Bryan, I am starting to lean towards the tabard and cape side of things. I have seen this project, and I am very excited about it. It has revitalized my space hulk project. I know that Ezekiel doesn't wear TDA, but I figured if Mephiston can pull it off then why not my favorite librarian Ezekiel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3562319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I meant more of "Why drive yourself insane trying to model some full robes on TDA when you don't have to, since Ezekial's image isn't in TDA?" Full robes are only found on the power armor models, so no reason to use Ezekial's image to try and model them. If you do want to, you are both crazy and going to need to make enough slits to allow for TDA movement without tearing the robes, otherwise it would just seem silly (let's wrap a bed sheet around this and then rip it all up!). :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3562378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I agree. Full robes on a terminator look too restrictive a lot of the time. I would go with a Deathwing Knight body if you want some robes, possibly with the cloak, or do what I did a few years ago and use Black templar power-armoured tabard bodies and a bit of green stuff to join them to terminator armour backs. I've included a bad photo below for reference. http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o126/Gillyfish2010/Proofofdice.jpg The thing that makes Ezekiel identifiable as Ezekiel is the two-handed force sword and his pose. The Deathwing Knights box comes with a nice big sword which you could modify to look suitably force-weapony (it's a technical term). Maybe change the grip so he is holding it two handed or upright and it might echo the character model (not that you necessarily need to). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3562532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thank you Brothers! I am inclined to agree that robes and a cloak are the way to go with this project. I am going to do my best to replicate the pose, sword, and head of the origin model. Then of course I can add the books, keys etc... Thank you for your feed back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3562818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 If you manage to do a two handed grip with the Terminator, please post how! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3563195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 If you manage to do a two handed grip with the Terminator, please post how! Will do. I am working on a similar project with my GK Librarian linked in my sig. He does have a two handed pose, but it is to the side not straight up. Rest assured I will be making the Ezekiel pose Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3564521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maybe use the head and robes from the Dark Vengeance set Librarian along with the sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3566178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maybe use the head and robes from the Dark Vengeance set Librarian along with the sword. I do REALLY like that model. I was thinking that I could use the model as a reference piece. I like how his robes look from the front, but I am not the biggest fan of how the cape falls on the back of the model. I will need to alter that, but a great idea thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3566364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 I have decided to start the Death wing project of with Brother Lemnos, who is my counts as Brother Omnio. He is still very much a WIP but I like where things are going. I have used the chainsword arm because after I add a lens or two to it I believe that it will make a nice scanner or targeting device worthy of one as technologically inclined as Lemnos. The servo arm is still WIP, and I am going to add cables/wires, and determine how best to mount and position it. I plan to further personalize him through the use of red in his heraldry to distinguish his connection to the mechanicus. http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/EE1EF1BA-884F-48D0-B485-8CB29BF89258_zpsk2qz08dz.jpg http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/19C5483E-64A9-43AE-AE13-82A81680934C_zpsrxakwpfe.jpg http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/FB0CECD6-D118-45FD-853A-49CA0EE43B70_zpsuupn72y5.jpg http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/6709CD5B-5E07-4442-8627-83BEBBEE9E4A_zpsdp3dzrzu.jpg Brother Lemnos is analytical, driven by logic, and intellectually curios almost to the extreme. These qualities often lead to Lemnos withdrawing from his brethren between missions to analyze, compile, and process the information and experiences of previous missions. Lemnos' isolating behavior has lead his battle-brothers to perceive him as aloof. This perception does not however tarnish the respect and value his battle-brothers place in his ability to provide them with sound tactical analysis in even the most voracious of actions/situations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3566395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Although I like the ideas behind this model very much indeed, keep in mind he is in Terminator armour and could conceivably mount much bigger/heavier servo arm(s) and equipment. But overall a great project. Looking forwards to seeing more. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3567047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 BIGGAH IS BETTAH! Terminators are walking tanks, and I agree 110% with Isiah; Give him something worthy of the army he wears. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3567081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 But remember he still has to move around and fight in cramped conditions, make sure it all loks like it can fold down behind the back, like Ferrus Manus's backpack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3567121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Great points Brothers, thank you. Looking at the model again I can see that the scale of the servo arm is off, and that it needs to be beefier. I think that my next attempt at this will be to create a folded arm. This project is strictly for Space Hulk, so I do not want a full scale Tech marine terminator. I am aiming for a Space Hulk relevant servo arm that looks as though it could be used in the cramped and confined spaces in the Space Hulk. Back to the drawing board I go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3567163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Not the most challenging conversion, but effective none the less IMHO. http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/A72E039B-2748-4BA0-A114-48A3DF7B2CA5_zpsruoqkg9y.jpg http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/BD3DC35B-D226-4663-9804-114D377EF6F8_zpsbcykuuey.jpg This fine fellow will count as Lorenzo. I will write a mini background and come up with a name for him soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3570758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larhendiel Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Your painted terminators look very nice, but what really caught my eye were those dies you have in the background, where did you get them from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3570848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Your painted terminators look very nice, but what really caught my eye were those dies you have in the background, where did you get them from? LOL! Those are Brother Gillyfish's models not mine I believe the die are part of an initiative run by this forum in which you can order B&C dice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3571029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 :D They are indeed B&C dice from a while back. Square so they are statistically less likely to roll ones than rounded dice. And thanks for the comment about my painted models, but I do hope I haven't hijacked the thread! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3571416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 :D They are indeed B&C dice from a while back. Square so they are statistically less likely to roll ones than rounded dice. And thanks for the comment about my painted models, but I do hope I haven't hijacked the thread! Hijacked!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3572607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 I liked the look of this guy so much that I decided to magnetize him to be equipped with an Assault Cannon and a Heavy Flamerhttp://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/2CBEE642-E097-4084-8284-CE96591C351C_zpsu4c7eneu.jpghttp://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/DC787433-52B7-4210-9DE5-3E279D10877A_zpsevjlcake.jpg Brother Nuriel rose to the Deathwing from the ranks of the Dark Angel's devastator squads. Nuriel's ability to read the ebb and flow of the enemy in battle is a skill which has prevented his Brethren from being flanked or overrun on numerous occasions, and continues to serve him and his squad mates well in the close quartered fighting onboard Space Hulks. Brother Nuriel is a man of few words, but when he does speak it is usually to apply his dry and sarcastic humour to the situation at hand and goad his Brothers. Despite being continuously reprimanded for his comments by command, Brother Nuriel's contributions to the com net help to deepen the bond between the squad members. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3573029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Here is a WIP pic of the new and improved servo arm: http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/F30B26CA-CD17-4E71-AE12-189481E0181B_zpspylqqucm.jpg http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Dark%20Angels/E9BD5359-8104-4D52-ACB3-D2FA82A7FB47_zps4iolpoy7.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3579109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Great work on the magnetised heavy flamer. Servo arm is looking fit for purpose I think. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3579295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I agree with Isiah. I like this servo arm. Feels like it would certainly be helpful in clearing narrow corridors of obstructions. The other looked more like it would be suited for a Apothecary and his tools… so I wouldn't totally scrap it. Might be a nice addition to the Apoth if you repurpose it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3579725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Blade Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 I am grateful of your earlier feedback brothers. I feel that the new servo arm is coming along nicely and is a lot more appropriate. I am excited to finish this guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285326-space-hulk-death-wing-project/#findComment-3579882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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