The Red Thirst Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Alright gets, we all know chronologically the heresy series is a little out of wack but I just wanted to ask is there anything I need to read prior to Angel Exterminatus?? ie short stories etc im a little lazy with reading the anthologies Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Eh, I'd read Fulgrim beforehand, but beyond that, you should be fine. It's mostly a standalone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Probably should have clarified a bit iv read everything except the anthologies, vulkan lives, angel extermainatus and unremembered empire. Did i miss anything? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Unless we get a list of every book you have read, we can't exactly say for sure. I will say, of those that you know you have missed, that some of the anthologies had some very good shorts and Unremembered Empire was much, much, much better than Vulkan Lives Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar'kir Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It depends on what your interested in. If your looking for HH stuff, then I'd say you've missed alot, but if your looking for legion specific... I'd one of the short stories from Age of Darkness. I forget the title however it is about the Iron Warriors. Thas my two cents... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Iron Within about Dantioch? Didn't really figure into Angel Exterminatus. However, both Reflection Crack'd from The Primarchs anthology and Crimson Fist from the Shadows of Treachery anthology both do lead up into Angels Exterminatus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Iron Within about Dantioch? Didn't really figure into Angel Exterminatus. However, both Reflection Crack'd from The Primarchs anthology and Crimson Fist from the Shadows of Treachery anthology both do lead up into Angels Exterminatus. Iv read Reflection Cracked but not Crimson Fist, thanks Kol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Funny enough, one I would highly suggest you read before Angel Exterminatus (if you haven't already), would be a 40k novel, Storm of Iron. Matter of fact, I'd say it's mandatory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Funny enough, one I would highly suggest you read before Angel Exterminatus (if you haven't already), would be a 40k novel, Storm of Iron. Matter of fact, I'd say it's mandatory. ill look into it, Thanks heathens Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Funny enough, one I would highly suggest you read before Angel Exterminatus (if you haven't already), would be a 40k novel, Storm of Iron. Matter of fact, I'd say it's mandatory. U r a sick, twisted and evil individual. Can I have your autograph? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I'm serious. Damn near all the primary characters are in Storm of Iron. Plus, on it's own, it's a great book, if a touch dated. At least I wasn't a jerk, and told him to read all the McNeil Ultramarine books that have the other Iron Warriors in them.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Not what I meant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Seriously love my old copy of storm of iron I've read it around 15 times. One of the best bits of writing ever produced alongside lord of night and traitors gambit IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eye Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 A good read indeed, but as someone interested in military history (and French), I've been annoyed by the fact that a lot of the stuff has been directly taken from Vauban's work : fortress building, siege warfare and even the name of the Castellan... For those interested : Vauban http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Tranch%C3%A9es_parall%C3%A8les_Vauban.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why would it annoy you that a story about a battle between the Iron Warriors and the Imperial Fists, the two foremost siege warfare legions, references an expert on siege warfare to, in all likelihood, add some realism to the siege? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 After all, it is probable that Vauban's methods were passed down over the millennia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eye Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why would it annoy you that a story about a battle between the Iron Warriors and the Imperial Fists, the two foremost siege warfare legions, references an expert on siege warfare to, in all likelihood, add some realism to the siege? Annoyed is maybe a bit strong. The problem is precisely realism : W40k is not realistic & will never be, so copy - pasting XVII century techniques is kinda ridiculous. But I repeat, I enjoyed the reading and half of me is really happy with the tribute to a genious like Vauban. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 But with Perturabo being Da Vinci's number one superfan, surely it wouldn't be a huge stretch to assume both he and Dorn would have studied classical writings on the discipline siege warfare? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 But with Perturabo being Da Vinci's number one superfan, surely it wouldn't be a huge stretch to assume both he and Dorn would have studied classical writings on the discipline siege warfare?Since Dorn's original specialty was actually urban warfare, not siege warfare, and it was the Iron Warriors who built the Castellan at Hydra Cordatus, not the Imperial Fists, I'm going to go with "possible, but it is more likely Perturabo studied it." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Im suprised you haven't noticed that practically everything games workshop do is taken from somewhere else. Literally everything, I'm not entirely sure there has been an original idea in the last ten years Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285577-what-do-i-read-next/#findComment-3568959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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