RazorDaemon Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Decided I needed some input for my Chapter, I've hit a bit of a mental block. As a note, I am going with a very heavy Grecco-Roman theme, but not just Spartan like the Minotaurs. What I have is a Blood Angels successor Chapter. Still playing around with the name, at the moment I'm leaning towards the Astral Walkers, but I can't make up my mind if I ought to change it to somehow reflect the Blood Angels, though I know it isn't a requirement as not all Successors resemble the Parent in either scheme or name. For the Chapter Badge, I was thinking the standard Blood Angels but with a Blue or Blueish-Purple drop instead of Red, and/or possibly adding a spiked ring, like the one that is becoming more frequent on Space Marine models (on a shoulder in new Tactical Box, not sure how else to describe it) with the droplet in the middle, but would that be too close to Flesh Tearers? For the scheme itself, this is what I have for the basic Marine And this is a Veteran If I go with a Winged Blue/Purple Droplet, I would change the shoulder color, perhaps a deep red, or white if the wings are black. To sum it up, I would appreciate input regarding the Chapter Name and Badge, specifically would a Blue or Purple Winged "Blood" Droplet be ok, and then just general input regarding keeping or changing the name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The paint scheme reminds me of the Astral Claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperialis_Dominatus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The "spiky thing" is a halo. ;) Fully surrounding something it would be a starburst or nova. Nice scheme. Not convinced on the white weapons. Keep them grey, dark, metal, something to contrast. Why the blue or purple drop? Blue I could understand for a tear. Purple I don't rightly know. A symbol for some amethyst relic of the Chapter (may I suggest this? :P)?As long as you made the halo/starburst look more like that and less like a buzzsaw, you'll be fine. Eight points, elongated cardinals, almost forming an overall diamond shape. Astral Walkers with an Astral-Claws-like scheme... might want to change one or the other. I would suggest the name, and tie in the different colored drop with a tie to the Blood Angels/whichever Successor of the Blood Angels you wish to descend from. It seems the High Lords stopped using Blood Angels geneseed for Foundings as much around halfway through the Imperium's lifespan or something. Octavulg will go on about it, I'm sure. What draws you to the Blood Angels? If you want a drop logo, you don't have to pick them. Though I love Blood Angels, so I'm down. Any background stuff? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Acid Dog Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hmm... Unless you're going to change the entire paint scheme, I'd leave the color of the shoulders alone. I think it will come into its own and look less Astral Claws-y once you paint some, and that blue just makes too good a spot color for the gold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It seems the High Lords stopped using Blood Angels geneseed for Foundings as much around halfway through the Imperium's lifespan or something. Octavulg will go on about it, I'm sure. What draws you to the Blood Angels? If you want a drop logo, you don't have to pick them. Though I love Blood Angels, so I'm down. Easy way out of that is just to make sure they are an earlier founding. Once you get to the mid to later foundings, they start going the way of the Knights of Blood, and succumbing to the flaw at an astronomical rate/killing things they aren't supposed to. Depending on the background, the purple blood drop could be used to signify the royalty or nobility of their bloodline. Interested to see where you take these guys! LG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorDaemon Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 The "spiky thing" is a halo. Fully surrounding something it would be a starburst or nova. Nice scheme. Not convinced on the white weapons. Keep them grey, dark, metal, something to contrast. Why the blue or purple drop? Blue I could understand for a tear. Purple I don't rightly know. A symbol for some amethyst relic of the Chapter (may I suggest this? )? As long as you made the halo/starburst look more like that and less like a buzzsaw, you'll be fine. Eight points, elongated cardinals, almost forming an overall diamond shape. Astral Walkers with an Astral-Claws-like scheme... might want to change one or the other. I would suggest the name, and tie in the different colored drop with a tie to the Blood Angels/whichever Successor of the Blood Angels you wish to descend from. It seems the High Lords stopped using Blood Angels geneseed for Foundings as much around halfway through the Imperium's lifespan or something. Octavulg will go on about it, I'm sure. What draws you to the Blood Angels? If you want a drop logo, you don't have to pick them. Though I love Blood Angels, so I'm down. Any background stuff? Halo...should've realized that lol As far as Astral Claws, mine will be White instead of Silver, that will help differentiate from the Astral Claws. Also the gold is more of a Bronzeish Gold, but not as bronze as the Minotaurs of Space Wolf trim, and I won't be doing the oxidation effect. I'm still torn between the Blue Shoulders and a Blue Drop, I'm not sure how it'd turn out with blue on blue (even with a border on the drop), unless I keep the shoulders a dark blue with the Drop being a light blue or even silver. I actually chose the Blood Angels after considering what kind of play style I wanted, they fit nicely. Also, they are from an early Founding, so no issue with that. I still want to have the Drop logo as well not only to reflect the heritage but also using the awesome looking Sanguinary Guard and Death Company bits without having to butcher them too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperialis_Dominatus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think sufficiently contrasting blues should be fine, especially if the blue inside the starburst is slightly darker than the blue outside, and the teardrop very bright. Any respectable purple would be difficult with any blue, really, and light purple is really more of a pink. I'd go with blue. My vote, anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Acid Dog Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think sufficiently contrasting blues should be fine, especially if the blue inside the starburst is slightly darker than the blue outside, and the teardrop very bright. Any respectable purple would be difficult with any blue, really, and light purple is really more of a pink. I'd go with blue. My vote, anyway. Just a thought, but if you did the starburst/halo in your gold, the interior in white, and the blood/teardrop in a water/gem blue, I think it would look quite nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorDaemon Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think sufficiently contrasting blues should be fine, especially if the blue inside the starburst is slightly darker than the blue outside, and the teardrop very bright. Any respectable purple would be difficult with any blue, really, and light purple is really more of a pink. I'd go with blue. My vote, anyway. Just a thought, but if you did the starburst/halo in your gold, the interior in white, and the blood/teardrop in a water/gem blue, I think it would look quite nice. It's between that or a bright blue Drop with white wings, and the fancy 3d ones in silver, as the normal Blood Angels one is black and when its fancy and 3d white. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I actually chose the Blood Angels after considering what kind of play style I wanted, they fit nicely. Also, they are from an early Founding, so no issue with that. I still want to have the Drop logo as well not only to reflect the heritage but also using the awesome looking Sanguinary Guard and Death Company bits without having to butcher them too much. Just a quick thought but if you're not set on BA gene seed but you still want to use the 'drop' bits, there are ways to make it work. For example they could be tear drops (might fit with painting them blue?), explain as being named for the tears cried by Emperor when he heard of his sons' treachery. Or the tears of lamentation cried by the Chapter's enemies when they are destroyed. Or something else. Lots of possible ideas anyway. Likewise the play style, plenty of assault focussed Chapters out there. In any case, you may be quite happy with them being BA Successors, if so ignore this post so far! Certainly the scheme could work as BA; white/gold is very Sanguinius-ish, blue shoulder insets is reminiscent of World Eaters ferocity. That said, if they are BA Successors, I'd keep the drop red, as they obviously are going to have similar attitude/respect for blood and the heritage it represents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285582-diy-wip/#findComment-3568702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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