Demus Ragnok Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Well I was struggling with the same decision some time ago. So I did something radical... I asked my wife! Me: "Hey which one of these color schemes you like the best? " Her: "Oh those [ redacted ] ones are pretty, do some of them." So I'll be doing some [ redacted ] ones when my cash flow situation improves. And yes I know everyone doesn't have a spouse/ significant other around to tell them what to do. But I do so there. Aside from all that I say do an army that is a contrast to your blood angels both in color and style of play. ( If anyone can guess which there may be a prize for ya!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Well I was struggling with the same decision some time ago. So I did something radical... I asked my wife! Me: "Hey which one of these color schemes you like the best? " Her: "Oh those [ ] ones are pretty, do some of them." So I'll be doing some of them when my cash flow situation improves. And yes I know everyone doesn't have a spouse/ significant other around to tell them what to do. But I do so there. Aside from all that I say do an army that is a contrast to your blood angels both in color and style of play. Your a smart man. The wife is always right ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Unless your single. And then you get to be right. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Ha! Women do control the big decisions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Unless your single. And then you get to be right. :D ...and single Lol What did a famous English King once say? Ahh yes: "I control England, my wife controls me, and my son controls my wife. Therefore, my wife and son control England." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 If you're looking for longevity the shattered legions are all under ten thousand after Isstvan V. I don't know what FW has planned but I don't think they will have the infrastructure to do much for the next 7 years. That said the Iron Hands are easily one of my top 5. I thought although the Iron Hands were hit pretty hard, because only their elite had arrived at Istvaan V before the Massacre, the rest of the arriving IHs forces would have been able to escape / regroup after they arrived in system - doesn't Massacre say something about some of their forces arriving and engaging the traitor fleets to allow later arrivals to retreat? Yeah, they suffered massively due to Istvaan V, but not nearly as badly as the Raven Guard & Salamanders. Plus, each Clan is almost autonomous - a mini-Legion effectively - so I'd hope they might still be able to do something significant, albeit not tremendous during the rest of the heresy. Then again, wishful thinking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Unless your single. And then you get to be right. :D http://25.media.tumblr.com/ee84ed19d5f1b1cbdecd05fde38f99aa/tumblr_mgztqjkqsm1qh2o7zo1_r1_500.gif Unless, of course, you are an orphan living in an all-male society. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I went for DG, fell in love with the fluff a while back :) My 40k army is BA too, with a bit of SW for some difference. I say find the army in the fluff you like. If you already know all the fluff and still undecided, colour scheme maybe, or the legion specific models. As Demus points out, maybe an opposing colour scheme would be good - which would lead to a bit of blue. But then, Loyalist or Traitor legion. BA's are full of funky units and fast assault movement, so the DG for me are a complete opposite in terms of foot slogging bolter wielding marines. I've been tempted by Siege units, chain axes and the like, but chem and rad weaponry seems more niche and obscure in flavour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Unless your single. And then you get to be right. :D http://25.media.tumblr.com/ee84ed19d5f1b1cbdecd05fde38f99aa/tumblr_mgztqjkqsm1qh2o7zo1_r1_500.gif Unless, of course, you are an orphan living in an all-male society. Or Australian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 If you're looking for longevity the shattered legions are all under ten thousand after Isstvan V. I don't know what FW has planned but I don't think they will have the infrastructure to do much for the next 7 years. That said the Iron Hands are easily one of my top 5. I thought although the Iron Hands were hit pretty hard, because only their elite had arrived at Istvaan V before the Massacre, the rest of the arriving IHs forces would have been able to escape / regroup after they arrived in system - doesn't Massacre say something about some of their forces arriving and engaging the traitor fleets to allow later arrivals to retreat? Yeah, they suffered massively due to Istvaan V, but not nearly as badly as the Raven Guard & Salamanders. Plus, each Clan is almost autonomous - a mini-Legion effectively - so I'd hope they might still be able to do something significant, albeit not tremendous during the rest of the heresy. Then again, wishful thinking. Well, we don't know woth the Iron hands. They contributed ten thousand Morlocks and an entire Expedition Fleet, which can be of any size. For the most part, the fluf seems to look at the Iron hands and say that the top of their hierarchy was destroyed is all, the Legion survived but is truly "shattered" with all of the Clans and various Garrisons/minor fleet detachments scattered throughout the galaxy. That's why we can see some Iron Hands by themselves(ok, well with Whote Scars) but with exception of those with Corax, you can't find a Raven guard or a Salamander without each other and/or an Iron hand far behind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 So much more insightful feedback! I created this thread not so much to have the community pick for me, but to get more insight on what gave others pause in their decision making. As many of you have said of yourselves, I am a fan of most legions. I sometimes make decisions on a whim, and I want to avoid making a long term mistake. This project will take a long time to achieve fruition, so I want to make a choice for the long view. For instance, I do not hate the III Legion, just it's Primarch. I really like the aesthetics (shocking I know, as a Blood Angel player ) but I think that in the end I just wouldn't be able to get over him being who he is. The Iron Tenth comes back around quite a bit, and I really dig Ferrus Manus. He is a flawed character, with redeeming qualities and I like that. black is not something I have ever done extensively, and neither is silver. They are definitely a strong contender here. Alpha Legion appeals to be with it's colour scheme and overall trolling attitude. What's strange is that so far, no one's brought up points with the Imperial Fists. is it because they are likely to come last, and have not seen any action so far in the Heresy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I think the Fists are in the next book, Battle of Phall I think, I just don't care for yellow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Love Night Lords and their fluff. With ADB giving them so much life, it just made them all the more attractive to me. I am also an Alpha Legion and Iron Fists fan. I would say read a few books with a wide range of Primarchs and legions, pick the one you fall for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Whatever you pick, prepare for war. My Iron Warriors, and my gaming table, will be waiting for a game, mon ami. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Unless your single. And then you get to be right. <gif snip> Unless, of course, you are an orphan living in an all-male society. An all-male society could still have spouses, no? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Unless your single. And then you get to be right. <gif snip> Unless, of course, you are an orphan living in an all-male society. An all-male society could still have spouses, no? Perhaps, but not wives. Only wives are always right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Whatever you pick, prepare for war. My Iron Warriors, and my gaming table, will be waiting for a game, mon ami. It's quite a treck from Montreal, Quebec to Wasilla, Alaska. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Whatever you pick, prepare for war. My Iron Warriors, and my gaming table, will be waiting for a game, mon ami. It's quite a treck from Montreal, Quebec to Wasilla, Alaska. MotorcycleSnowmobile trip? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Whatever you pick, prepare for war. My Iron Warriors, and my gaming table, will be waiting for a game, mon ami. It's quite a treck from Montreal, Quebec to Wasilla, Alaska. Are you sure, Canada isn't that big. Right guys... Right? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloroutofspace Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I dare say it's not all about the fluff - if it was so, I would've had a really difficult time deciding, as so many Legions have such great fluff. Colour scheme is important, as well as preferred tactics - it all counts. If I were playing 40k Blood Angels, I'd go with something completely different for the Heresy, namely Iron Warriors. I'm sure as soon as their rules and models are released, they'll gain a huge following. Also, Death Guard :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Id would pick the "opposite" style of legion compared to my 40k army. As coloroutofspace mentions. So ill suggest a DG army with IW allies, or the other way around :)) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 If you're looking for longevity the shattered legions are all under ten thousand after Isstvan V. I don't know what FW has planned but I don't think they will have the infrastructure to do much for the next 7 years. That said the Iron Hands are easily one of my top 5. I thought although the Iron Hands were hit pretty hard, because only their elite had arrived at Istvaan V before the Massacre, the rest of the arriving IHs forces would have been able to escape / regroup after they arrived in system - doesn't Massacre say something about some of their forces arriving and engaging the traitor fleets to allow later arrivals to retreat? Yeah, they suffered massively due to Istvaan V, but not nearly as badly as the Raven Guard & Salamanders. Plus, each Clan is almost autonomous - a mini-Legion effectively - so I'd hope they might still be able to do something significant, albeit not tremendous during the rest of the heresy. Then again, wishful thinking. It does indeed. One third of the Legion was absent from the Massacre entirely. The rest of the Legion followed the Morlocks into the Massacre. I reckon (and hope) that about half of the two thirds survived, so the Legion was probably around ~60,000 and around ~60 capital vessels. Of course, the latter part is just speculation on my part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Whatever you pick, prepare for war. My Iron Warriors, and my gaming table, will be waiting for a game, mon ami. It's quite a treck from Montreal, Quebec to Wasilla, Alaska. Are you sure, Canada isn't that big. Right guys... Right? :P Yeah it's only like this big (holds up finger and thumb) on the map. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Keep this in mind as well, death guard are nearly fleshed out, asking with emperors children and sons of horus. World eaters will have a character release soon and word bearers a unit. There will be more releases in the future for the original book traitors but gears are shifting to the second book big time along with some model releases for the third. So the question is if you want to plan an army with a msjority of its models released already or start one with releases imminent and ride the ride Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 It looks like I've come to a decision brothers... Bloodied, shattered, but unbowed - The Iron Tenth! Here's why: -In the end, Ferrus Manus is a great, characterful Primarch. -They are probably as opposite from Blood Angels as it gets in styles. From ornate blood red and gold to spartan black and silver. -Great conversion opportunities. This as weighed heavily for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285586-horus-heresy-joining-the-fray/page/3/#findComment-3569857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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