FENRISÚLFUR Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 So, I have heard arguments from both sides and was wondering if there was a consensus about the ap of a Prince's close combat attacks with The Black Mace. Some say ap 2 due to the Smash rule, while others say ap 4 due to the Mace. Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 2 if you use smash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FENRISÚLFUR Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 2 if you use smash The confusing part of this for me is that Smash has 2 characteristics. The first being that 'a model' with the Smash rule counts its attacks as ap2' and the second characteristic is that ' a model with the Smash rule may half its base attacks and strike at double strength'. So does this mean that the models attacks are always ap2 and it can then also half its attacks for double strength, or is it only ap 2 when it halves its attacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Sirus Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 All MC cc attacks are AP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Within Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 All attacks regardless of the weapons AP are ap 2 due it having the Smash USR. It doesn't have to halve its attacks to get AP 2 only to double it's strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 utterly and unequivocally it is Ap2. "All of the close combat attacks,except Hammer of Wrath Attacks, of a rnodelwith this special rule are resolved at AP 2 " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FENRISÚLFUR Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Thank you all for the clarification, as I was on the fence about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 yeah, def ap 2 bc its MC. You would never be forced to loose your natural ap bc you took a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Except if you're a Tyranid! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Sirus Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Except if you're a Tyranid! :D What? You cant be serious, did they loose smash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Except if you're a Tyranid! What? You cant be serious, did they loose smash? Nope, all Nid MCs are still MCs and follow the rules for being an MC. Smash included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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