Akylas Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Hey everyone, Between the amazing 30k WIPs here and a paint scheme I tested that went surprisingly well I've started to catch the 30k bug. I have a kitbashing project for a Chaos Marines army that will leave me with lots of parts from Forgeworld Marks (4 and 5 especially) and am thinking of making a Scouring Era Blood Angels force. I'm thinking a Blood Angels company that's become overextended and undersupplied. Lots of mixed armor marks and a chance to learn some new skills like weathering and battle damage. Likely accompanied by whatever terrible fluff enters my head. :p My knowledge of the early history of the setting is a bit iffy. Do I understand correctly that the legions were not split up until the end/after the Scouring? I'm hoping to be able to pick a company number that hasn't featured much in the books thus far and be able to field it as a proper non codex 30k army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Scouring was 7 years. Or, more accurately, the splitting of the Legions was 7 years after the end of the Heresy, so we've assumed that was the point where Guilliman said "Okay, now that everything has settled down, we're gonna rethink this whole 'legions of unsupervised genetically modified sociopaths running around with unrestricted access to fleets and weaponry and unilimited recruiting' thing." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3571770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I seem to remember Chapters being involved in the Scouring. The Iron Cage, for one. But, considering the Imperial Fists were obviously not divided into Chapters at that time, it is possible that the Ultramarines just divided so much sooner than everyone else. It is possible that they were the only ones who had divided themselves into Chapters during the Scouring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3571947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 So the idea seems plausible at least. It made sense for the second founding to be at the end of the scouring rather than the middle/beginning, but looking for sense in the setting is a fool's game at times so I thought it best to check. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 When was the Ultramarine assault on Tsagualsa? I'd think that would have been part of the scouring, but it definitely involved the Ultras already split into Chapters. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tsagualsa#Later_Events Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Unless I read Void Stalker wrong Tsagualsa was 200 years after the Siege. EDIT: Or not, I was reading Void Stalker again last night but now I can't find the quote. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I seem to remember Chapters being involved in the Scouring. The Iron Cage, for one. The Imperial Fists went into the Iron Cage after Guilliman had recalled them to declare that the Legions were to be divided. Dorn's refusal do divide his Legion and his eventual acceptance were what motivated him to take his Legion into the trap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I can't believe no one's done this yet, but.... Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Unless I've been outfluffed by a new retcon - Dorn took the remaining Imperial Fists who were unwilling to split up into new chapters to the Iron Cage. This has to happen after the Black Templars and the Crimson Fists have separated (think about it...). The Survivors of the Iron Cage did not then split up into chapters - they took a 10-year sabattical, leaving the CF's and BT's to bear the torch fo rthe Dorn geneline, to learn the tenets of the Codex... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The Index Astartes as well as the Deathwatch RPG supplement 'Rites of Battle' describe that the Imperial Fists were divided after the Iron Cage incident. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I seem to remember Chapters being involved in the Scouring. The Iron Cage, for one. The Imperial Fists went into the Iron Cage after Guilliman had recalled them to declare that the Legions were to be divided. Dorn's refusal do divide his Legion and his eventual acceptance were what motivated him to take his Legion into the trap. . . . Did you not read the rest? Such as the part where I said the Imperial Fists were not yet divided? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3572923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Well, yes. What I was saying was that the reason why the Ultramarines were reformed into Chapters at that time while another Legion was still whole was not because the Ultramarines divided early during the Scouring, but rather because that particular incident happened at a time after the formation into Chapters had already officially been declared but where the Imperial Fists in particular had initially refused to reform. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3573085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 @Thewarmaster Ha, thanks for the welcome. As far as Tsagualsa I don't have the page in Void Stalker, but I also thought it was mentioned as taking place a couple centuries past the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3573262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Well, yes. What I was saying was that the reason why the Ultramarines were reformed into Chapters at that time while another Legion was still whole was not because the Ultramarines divided early during the Scouring, but rather because that particular incident happened at a time after the formation into Chapters had already officially been declared but where the Imperial Fists in particular had initially refused to reform. Just wondered why the repeat of what I said, while removing the part from the quote that was being repeated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285748-timeline-of-scouring-and-dissolution-of-legions/#findComment-3573350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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