TheAurelian Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 i know this is my second post in as about as many seconds but why no movies,or good ones at least i know about that one animation that is supposedly coming out soon but seriously if 30k or just warhammer in gerneral is so big and has a huge fan base why not have a really good movie or movie series? the plots are all descent enough and in some cases really phenomenal why wouldnt people make a movie. and frankly im sure if people saw a really well done movie they would atleast check out more warhammer stuff. unless the point is to be exclusive and stuff. like just books ad games and what not thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorkimedes Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Warhammer may be well known in some circles but I'm not sure theres enough interested to justify the risk a large scale movie would be. To do the setting justice in a full length film would cost a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The limited demographic is the biggest reason I could think of. Could that change? Maybe. If games like "Dawn of War" or "Space Marine" and exposure in the NY Times Bestseller list continue bringing in a larger audience, there might one day be a financial incentive for them to film something. Until then, though, expect passion projects with limited budgets and high prices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Considering the Horus Heresy would make the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy feel like the opening 15 minutes, it would require at least dozens of films to bring it some semblance of justice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 No thanks. I have no faith in Hollywood to deliver anything but watered down swill. HBO series, maybe. But what are the chances of that ever happening? I'm happy with the books and my imagination :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 A series is more likely. Than movies. But there is so much ground to cover. 18 legions is about 10 too many. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Sirus Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 To begin with movies are like video games = mainly loose money. So it would take every fan of 40k to buy it or go see it/watch it on tele for it to be a success, quite a stretch as alot of people will download it or borrow it from a friend. So they'd have to make something amazing for it to really bring in any income. So i would suggest that if a movie appears it should be 'The Battle for Macragge' why you ask? Simple, it has a space battle, a war against evil beasties (think aliens but on a much bigger scale) and ofcourse it has a last stand, the movie would have it all so before i paint a target on myself its not just because its ultramarines. Then again as the featured chapter for space marine and the CGI movie it would make sense :-P they could even lay the issue of the codex down to rest as a proper war book aslong as grahan mcneil was to stay atleast 100 foot away from the script. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyMonkey Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I was thinking a three part series would suffice with the basic ideas of the heresy: Istvaan III, Istvaan V, Siege of Terra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 There should never be a movie about the universe. the movie media is simply far too limited to show what needs to be shown. And it is also leaves too little in character development. The only think I would want is a HBO style tv serie like Game of Thrones. It's would be the only project that is grand enough to capture how epic 30k/40k is. But as others have said in the end it comes down to the fact that there is a limited demographic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't think HBO would do it. Once the rememberancers are gone, they would have no way of justifying so much sex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't think HBO would do it. Once the rememberancers are gone, they would have no way of justifying so much sex. They could focus the series on the Emperor's Children. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koriel Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't think HBO would do it. Once the rememberancers are gone, they would have no way of justifying so much sex. They could focus the series on the Emperor's Children.I doubt they'd be able to show that on TV :PIt would be an orgy of blood, poop, other bodily fluids and a plethora of activities best left unmentioned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't think HBO would do it. Once the rememberancers are gone, they would have no way of justifying so much sex. They could focus the series on the Emperor's Children.I doubt they'd be able to show that on TV :PIt would be an orgy of blood, poop, other bodily fluids and a plethora of activities best left unmentioned. So Spartacus in Space? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carach Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 is that not generally what HBO series have in spades? :P i dont think it can be done in .. whats the word.. real-time? would need to be animated (via all the cgi bells and whistles). and to get the scale across that would cost rather a lot in money. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Well this is like clockwork. Well folks, looks like it's its that time of the year again, so grab the kids, stuff some protein bars and clean the old laslock, looks like we're going to need to put that neighbourhood necron down again: Granted GW isn't exactly a "profit-first" company, but a TV show wouldn't really give any valid incentive to be made; most successful shows pay themselves back through merchandise and other realisations of IP that are essentially massively advertised through said TV show. Considering the what, 12-15 year oldish demographic that would buy enough merchandise is already pretty heavily exposed to GW, there would be limited payoff. As for a movie, its the same case of money. Movies are inherently a very finanicaly risky venture, and a company like GW would not be comfortable with taking such a risk, thereby it would try to minimise the costs of production to offset the risk of never breaking even. Of course an IP like the Horus Heresy/40k needs heavy CGI funds to be a Horus Heresy/40k movie, so you see the spiral of doom I'm getting at. We got Ultramarine. THAT was a 40k movie. You can cry Lord Inquisitor and shout of YouTube, but guys WE FINALLY GOT A 40K MOVIE. Read it outloud: Ultramarine, that was a 40k movie helmed by GW. Of course, I'm hoping just as much as you, if not more, that one day we'll see a "omg, #Horusisa****" trending on twitter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 No, I DON'T want a Horus Heresy movie. I can see the posters now.... BETRAYER Based on a best selling novel by Aaron Dembski Bowden! Starring: Ben Afleck as Angron Channing Tatum as Khârn Megan Fox as Lotara Sarrin Malcolm McDowell as Lorgar Sean Bean as Argel Tal Directed by Michael Bay Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 . . . You know, some of that might not be too bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenhold Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So Spartacus in Space? No. Caligula in space. GW would blow it like they did with the Ultramarines movie. Instead of utilizing it as a tool to expand their customer base they had had regional viewings, sold it exclusively online and shelved it. It should have been played on SYFY relentlessly. In fact it should be playing non stop in the front window of every GW store. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenhold Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 No, I DON'T want a Horus Heresy movie. I can see the posters now.... BETRAYER Based on a best selling novel by Aaron Dembski Bowden! Starring: Ben Afleck as Angron Channing Tatum as Khârn Megan Fox as Lotara Sarrin Malcolm McDowell as Lorgar Sean Bean as Argel Tal Directed by Michael Bay Ben Afleck might be able to pull it off if a spike was actually driven into the back of his skull. I have some old railroad spikes. An oiled up sweaty bare chested Khârn belongs on the gladiator pits, just not wearing a bowtie. Megan Fox simply wouldn't work. Evey time she tried to key something on the command console she would accidentally fire the Ursus Claws with her toe thumbs. Malcolm McDowell's wrinkles would make Lorgar's face tatoos look like one of those origami paper fortune tellers whenever he spoke. Sean Bean would work, but only because he always dies. Michael Bay might pull it off IF the prompters don't go down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Toe thumbs? Say what now? I can honestly say that while I've seen Ms Fox in Transformers 1 & 2, Jonah Hex, and Jennifer's Body, I've never really noticed her thumbs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m01iti0n Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Horus Heresy, Istvaan to Terra, 3-4 movies. Make animated films to fill in the important gaps inbetween. Everything is through the eyes of the remembrances to bring the human element to the screen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So Spartacus in Space?No. Caligula in space. GW would blow it like they did with the Ultramarines movie. Instead of utilizing it as a tool to expand their customer base they had had regional viewings, sold it exclusively online and shelved it. It should have been played on SYFY relentlessly. In fact it should be playing non stop in the front window of every GW store. I was unaware there was a Caligula show as well as a Spartacus one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 No Movies An Anime series could work though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 To appeal to larger audiences, they would need production values similar to the Lord of the Rings films. Animation would not appeal to anyone outside the existing fan demographic, and frankly, wouldn't do it any justice. Money is why. Edit: also, its called the "whore-us" heresy. Don't trust that people are gonna be mature about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'd want Michelle Rodriguez as Lotarra. O_o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/#findComment-3572766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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