Xwingt65 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Forget a Horus Heresy movie I want Ciaphus Cain: Hero of the Box Office! That would be an idea. If you could find a charismatic rogueish actor....... And alot cheaper, since the cast would be 90% normal lads/ladies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3574618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carach Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 the spirit within, i think it was subtitled? avatar would probably be the more recent and obvious comparison i should have used lol. they would never make that money back. it would be too hard for the average joe to relate to in any way when the 'good guys' are genocidal maniacs in themselves that are allied with crazy fetish mechanical men and use dead people or criminals as cyborg slaves... would be like a cult hit sure but cult hits are that because they are not money making mainstream movies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3574619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 For the record, Starship Troopers was a fantastic work of satire comparable to the original Robocop ...Which, of course, made it the complete opposite in tone to the work it was based from, but that only makes it better in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3574702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 For the record, Starship Troopers was a fantastic work of satire comparable to the original Robocop ...Which, of course, made it the complete opposite in tone to the work it was based from, but that only makes it better in my opinion. This is somewhere around the point I meant to make earlier. There was a great opportunity for story telling that was missed...In my opinion. And I am afraid that any movie based on 40k or 30k would fall far short of the potential of the setting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3574717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 A movie will never work. You would need three movies for horus rising and False gods alone. An Anime series would be the only thing that might work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3574923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosco Toppings Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 A movie will never work. You would need three movies for horus rising and False gods alone. An Anime series would be the only thing that might work. Animated, yes. Anime, no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabasterKnight Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think that you guys (dissenters) are missing the point. There is no way that any movie would completely live up to the lofty expectations of hardened gamers, especially here I see. It is highly unlikely that every nuance of the story is going to be covered to anyone's satisfaction. For the people here to say it would never work or it could never happen for whatever reason is merely an opinion, not wrong to have in general, and is something that will sit well with them when they leave the boards today to sip tea or rip dice or whatever you do to get you through the night. Beyond the absurd notion of that opinion with conclusions reached by using film and works that have gone before as a measuring stick, comparisons to smelly cheese notwithstanding: A movie in theaters or a series (on HBO or something), if: funded by enough people to give it good production value backed a major studio from Hollywood USA written by the best screenwriters we have it had good casting with a good ensemble done correctly with todays special effects capabilities and CGIs - would be the best thing this hobby has ever had happen to it. Whether the production of one or the outcome was not something you as an individual would care to see truly remains to be seen. If it's done and gets even mediocre reviews, there wouldn't be a person on this board who wouldn't appreciate its impact or at least consider reversing opinion to begrudgingly check it out. No cartoons or anime or animation, no satire or tongue in cheek: Serious theater. I think they should do films. Smelly cheese or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think that you guys (dissenters) are missing the point. There is no way that any movie would completely live up to the lofty expectations of hardened gamers, especially here I see. It is highly unlikely that every nuance of the story is going to be covered to anyone's satisfaction. For the people here to say it would never work or it could never happen for whatever reason is merely an opinion, not wrong to have in general, and is something that will sit well with them when they leave the boards today to sip tea or rip dice or whatever you do to get you through the night. Beyond the absurd notion of that opinion with conclusions reached by using film and works that have gone before as a measuring stick, comparisons to smelly cheese notwithstanding: A movie in theaters or a series (on HBO or something), if: funded by enough people to give it good production value backed a major studio from Hollywood USA written by the best screenwriters we have it had good casting with a good ensemble done correctly with todays special effects capabilities and CGIs - would be the best thing this hobby has ever had happen to it. Whether the production of one or the outcome was not something you as an individual would care to see truly remains to be seen. If it's done and gets even mediocre reviews, there wouldn't be a person on this board who wouldn't appreciate its impact or at least consider reversing opinion to begrudgingly check it out. No cartoons or anime or animation, no satire or tongue in cheek: Serious theater. I think they should do films. Smelly cheese or not. Belittling those that refuse your point of view is neither helpful nor informative. In your perfect scenario 40k\30k still makes for a hard sell to movies goers. Because there are no heroes, only different sides. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It would never come to be anyway to many plots and such plus nobody around here would be happy with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabasterKnight Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think that you guys (dissenters) are missing the point. There is no way that any movie would completely live up to the lofty expectations of hardened gamers, especially here I see. It is highly unlikely that every nuance of the story is going to be covered to anyone's satisfaction. For the people here to say it would never work or it could never happen for whatever reason is merely an opinion, not wrong to have in general, and is something that will sit well with them when they leave the boards today to sip tea or rip dice or whatever you do to get you through the night. Beyond the absurd notion of that opinion with conclusions reached by using film and works that have gone before as a measuring stick, comparisons to smelly cheese notwithstanding: A movie in theaters or a series (on HBO or something), if: funded by enough people to give it good production value backed a major studio from Hollywood USA written by the best screenwriters we have it had good casting with a good ensemble done correctly with todays special effects capabilities and CGIs - would be the best thing this hobby has ever had happen to it. Whether the production of one or the outcome was not something you as an individual would care to see truly remains to be seen. If it's done and gets even mediocre reviews, there wouldn't be a person on this board who wouldn't appreciate its impact or at least consider reversing opinion to begrudgingly check it out. No cartoons or anime or animation, no satire or tongue in cheek: Serious theater. I think they should do films. Smelly cheese or not. Belittling those that refuse your point of view is neither helpful nor informative. In your perfect scenario 40k\30k still makes for a hard sell to movies goers. Because there are no heroes, only different sides. Dude, I belittled no one; my opinion was that the foundations of the previous opinions sound absurd to me and I articulated why thereafter. There is probably not a need to censor me for your internet radar being so attuned. It's a great story to tell regardless of the view of heroes. The sell nowadays is mostly in the CGI anyway, along with a few big names. EDIT: You know what? Who cares - the majority of posters here seem against it anyway, and it's not worth breath arguing over it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Well thats your opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 A movie is not realistic in any way or form. 1 The fanbase is way to small. 2 A 30K of 40K movie is way way to expensive to make. 3 Not nearly enough people people know about Warhammer 40K to justify the expense of Warhammer 30/40 K movie 4 Most of the characters would be non relatable to the average movie goer the would have to to disneyfy the characters alot. The best bet is an animated series and even that is a longshot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why not do a fan made jaunt then.. plenty of websites show us how to build suits, I was dabbling with the thought of a set of mk. 3 or catraphractii plate myself. Had various script ideas for 40k live action mini episodes. Let's do it. We'd only have ourselves to blame then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenhold Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Toe thumbs? Say what now? I can honestly say that while I've seen Ms Fox in Transformers 1 & 2, Jonah Hex, and Jennifer's Body, I've never really noticed her thumbs. Google it. She talked about hating her thumbs on The Tonight Show. Apparently there's even a Facebook page dedicated to her thumbs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3575789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPaladin Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 This is like the fabled Dark Tower movie/series. Part of me is dying to see it on the big screen, the rest of me is terrified to see how they desecrate my baby. The Dark Tower is way far out there for general audiences, and good lord, 30k would be even more so. Even with a great director like Ron Howard behind the film, I am still nervous about how The Dark Tower will turn out. I would love to see an HBO type series for 30k (Game of Thrones, IN SPAAACE!) and someday I hope that we see the fandom grow to an extent that this would be possible. If someone puts out a truly great video game set in the universe, then we might see something happen, but until then there just is not enough interest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3576752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkByDesign Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I would love a film but it would be to watered down and trying to appeal to the masses more than the actual fans. It's dark and gory setting would never be properly portrad and would always come off as shiny and tame. I mean look at the new robo cop? golly gee a PG version of a beloved classic. That's what hollywood would do to 40K. Think I'm still talking sh!t? Doom? Total recall........... The list goes on and on ect ect Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Horus Misunderstanding: In the not so grim twilight of the 41st millenium, there is only hope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Horus Misunderstanding: In the not so grim twilight of the 41st millenium, there is only hope. Yep. Just threw up a little. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Horus Misunderstanding: In the not so grim twilight of the 41st millenium, there is only hope. Yep. Just threw up a little. The Emperor and Horus hug at the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Horus Misunderstanding: In the not so grim twilight of the 41st millenium, there is only hope. Yep. Just threw up a little.The Emperor and Horus hug at the end. And many millenia's worth of familly therapy follow, main with Curze running away from home from time to time, Russ entired rehab for boozing alongside Fulgrim. Oh and every situation get diffused by having Magnus stomping off angrily saying " I can never do nothing! ". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveNYC Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 What, no mention of the wisecracking animal sidekick? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I would personally be happy with a stand alone movie like the Battle for Macragge or even a smelly cheese version of the Siege of Vraks. A 30/40k series would be way more expensive than is justifiable but a single movie might be worth it with a little bit of doctoring to make someone "the good guy". I almost suggested Taros but then I remembered the debacle that was Operation Comet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 What, no mention of the wisecracking animal sidekick? Ferrus Manus brought back as a servo skull? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285765-movies-why-not-fan-base/page/3/#findComment-3593367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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