Blindhamster Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Anyone else read it yet? What did you think? Very nice to have Hastur Sejanus get the spotlight again, i'd love a great crusade book with him as the main character! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 How about some Spoilers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 It starts with.. ‘I was there,’ he would say, right up until the day he died, after which he spoke only infrequently. ‘I was there the day Horus saved the Emperor.’ Story opens with the Luna wolves in what appears to be a losing space battle with greenskins, Abandon and Hastur are arguing, or rather, Abandon is getting angry at Hastur. The Mournvil meet with Hours to discuss the apparent back foot they are on and Hours has adept regulus 'illuminate' them, Hastur interprets the data they are given and Tarrick quips about them not making sense unless there was another fleet there, which there isn't. Hours gives in to his theatrical nature as has been seen in other stories and times his declaration of a second fleet being brought to them just as a new one enters space... It's the Emperor's own flagship and its support fleet, with this addition the two imperial fleets obliterate the greenskins and the emperor requests permission to come aboard. There is a scene describing that Hastur hasn't been so awed since the primach and then a scene where the mournvil perform one of their rituals, which calls back to 'death of a silversmith' as the tokens that Hastur had commissioned are included, as is mention of oaths of censure, which Hastur uses to keep the mournvil and by extension hours 'honest'. It also mentions a traitor, there is some implication that he may even have been a member of the mournvil prior to one or more of the others. The remainder of the book deals with horus, abandon, the emperor, justarean and custodians fighting orks after teleporting in, and in a different location Hastur leading his glory squad. The emperor falls through a fissure and horus leaps after him, meanwhile the glory squad mostly get killed and Hastur leads them toward a signal that can only be the emperor. Horus lands and sees his father fighting a group of irks the size of primarchs and one that is even larger than them, the emperor is nearly slain but horus manages to save him just as Hastur and the remainder of glory squad arrive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'd love to read that, but I ain't coughing up a forture for Macragge's Honour to get it.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Spoiler school.... you put the information between the two tags..... {spoiler} Bla bla {/spoiler} not after, but thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 How is the Emperor in a fight? So, there was a Luna Wolves traitor in the Mournival before the HH? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Oddly... the spoiler IS between two tags and always was, I dont know why it hasnt worked. Emp in a fight felt like he was bad ass. The last one, its implied but they dont say who the traitor is exactly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It starts with.. ‘I was there,’ he would say, right up until the day he died, after which he spoke only infrequently. ‘I was there the day Horus saved the Emperor.’ Story opens with the Luna wolves in what appears to be a losing space battle with greenskins, Abandon and Hastur are arguing, or rather, Abandon is getting angry at Hastur. The Mournvil meet with Hours to discuss the apparent back foot they are on and Hours has adept regulus 'illuminate' them, Hastur interprets the data they are given and Tarrick quips about them not making sense unless there was another fleet there, which there isn't. Hours gives in to his theatrical nature as has been seen in other stories and times his declaration of a second fleet being brought to them just as a new one enters space... It's the Emperor's own flagship and its support fleet, with this addition the two imperial fleets obliterate the greenskins and the emperor requests permission to come aboard. There is a scene describing that Hastur hasn't been so awed since the primach and then a scene where the mournvil perform one of their rituals, which calls back to 'death of a silversmith' as the tokens that Hastur had commissioned are included, as is mention of oaths of censure, which Hastur uses to keep the mournvil and by extension hours 'honest'. It also mentions a traitor, there is some implication that he may even have been a member of the mournvil prior to one or more of the others. The remainder of the book deals with horus, abandon, the emperor, justarean and custodians fighting orks after teleporting in, and in a different location Hastur leading his glory squad. The emperor falls through a fissure and horus leaps after him, meanwhile the glory squad mostly get killed and Hastur leads them toward a signal that can only be the emperor. Horus lands and sees his father fighting a group of irks the size of primarchs and one that is even larger than them, the emperor is nearly slain but horus manages to save him just as Hastur and the remainder of glory squad arrive. Quick test to see if it was the quote inside the spoiler that did it. It is pretty awesome that we get to see Gorro. I can't wait for it gets a normal release. Edit: Looks like that did it. So quick note for folks, don't add quote boxes to spoilers. It apparently confuses the system, locks them open. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Would be awesome to see some of the campaign leading up to it. Honestly theyve done an excellent job of writing sejanus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Who is the author? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Graham Mcneil, its on par with his better stuff rather than his worse stuff IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'd love to read that, but I ain't coughing up a forture for Macragge's Honour to get it.... I'd love to read them both but I'm not paying a fortune for a graphic novel either. Hopefully Macragge's Honour will get a regular non-limited edition release at a semi-reasonable price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Think it was already semi confirmed, just looking at upwards of a year wait is all. Ebook will no doubt be available in a month or two is my bet. Maybe drop someone that has it a message if you cant wait though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3574967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 How exactly are those of us who ordered Macragge's Honour supposed to get "Wolf of Ash and Fire"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Phoebus: My guess would be that if you ordered it via the BL page (unsure if it was avaliable anywhere else) then it might have been added to the 'My downloads' bit. If not it would probably be best to shoot BL and email asking where abouts you would find it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'll have to do that. It's definitely not in my Downloads. Sigh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 It was in my downloads, but from the date I made the order, and as id gotten other things after that, it wasnt immediately obvious Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Go to My Account, View Orders, click View beside your order and there should be a Download button beside Macragges Honour Should be... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Blindhmaster, thanks. I figured it out about a few seconds after sending an (albeit polite) e-mail to Black Library. Sigh... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Im sad that they didn't take an opportunity to make the irks that almost killed the Emperor into a more threatening enemy. It wouldn't take much effort to frame the orks as something not Mad Max. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 They did... They are technologicaly more advanced, more accurate shots and the final group are the size of primarchs, their leader is twice the size Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I really want to read about the part were the "mournvil perform one of their rituals". Ive been trying to argue that there is some low level magic invoked in this ritual. And that Loken sensed what it was all about in Horus rising. Perhaps the "traitor" some how tainted it all some how. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkydel Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Just to note, the reference to a traitor is a nod to the campaign against Vatale Gerron Terentius. The details of that campaign are covered in the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus section of "Betrayal." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I haven't got Betrayer, could someone give spoilers on the campaign against Vatale Gerron Terentius please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonerhino Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 A great Imperial Warlord rebeled (pre-HH). Created a little empire of his own. Only to be attacked by 4 legions. Who killed everything... Everything. The traitor's skull was dipped in gold and sent back to Terra. With the message "So perish all traitors". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285880-wolf-of-ash-and-fire/#findComment-3575868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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