The Milkman Of Baal Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Well met brothers. I have a game coming up and I am fighting alongside a friend of mine (2 Vs 1 thing) who’s just started a Space Puppy army and it’s his outing with them. I was wondering what the correct procedures were for carrying out the honour duel before battle, any bit of fluff or rules that have worked for anyone. Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It is typically fought by the Company Hero, so one of the Wolf Guard vs one of the DA vets? Failing WG/Vets you could go Warlord vs Warlord, as an Honour Duel I'd do it without weapons (representing fists/training weapons) to the first unsaved wound to represent "first blood". As for the entire concept of actually 'playing' the Honour Duel, I've never heard of it being done before, but I like it. It's certainly fluffy and a bit of added fun. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 As there are no rules for this honor duel, I guess you and your friend could have a bit of fun making up some. :) Restrict to a 1 or 2 wound characters and no power weapons for some more excitment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I've done this with a mate of mine. I don't take Company Champions so I used a Command Squad Veteran and he used a Wolf Guard. Fought it out just using their base characteristics before the game (so no weapons at all). The winner got bragging rights but nothing more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenONE Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Oh man this is a great idea. I think I might have to make a project of converting a model just for this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Maybe just not bragging rights... the loser of the duel could have -1 Ld to him and his squad. Probably over the top, but since it seems like beer and pretzels might be a fun thing to try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raztalin Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Or hows about the loser and his squad must start Turn 1 in reserve to depict him composing himself after the defeat ... ? Oh, and OFC bragging rights!! So much potential with this 'fluffy' feud :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garath Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You could use modified 2nd ed cc rules. A dues is done like this them: 1. Each chapter gives a champion, in PA (the tradition ) 2. each combatant rolls a number of dice equal to his A characteristic 3, They both choose the highest number rolled (so DA rolls a 2,3,5 -and picks a 5) , (and SW rolls 2,4,6 -and picks a 6) 4. Then they add their Ws to their respective scores 5. Any 6s rolled add +1 to total score,any 1s substract -1 to total score 6. Then, compare the two scores and the winner rolls a number of to wound rolls equal to the difference between their two scores 7. A 6 rolled together with a 1 cancel each other out Example: Brother Eriel and Brother Erik are dueling and the dues starts. Eriel has 2 attacks and an extra attack for 2 open fists. Erik has 3 attack base + 1 for 2 open fists. Eriel rolls 3 dice and gets 6,4,1 - his WS is 4. His total score is 8. He rolled a 6 and a 1 - so they are noth ignored. His total score is Ws 4+ 4= 8 Erik rolls 2,6,4. His total score is Ws 4+6+1 =11 (a six rolled gives him a further +1). Erik beats Eriel in the first round. He now rolls 3 to wound rolls. Erik wounds Eriel on a roll of 4. Rolls a 3,2,5- inflicting one wound. Eriel has power armor and has to roll to save , which he does,rolling a 6. I would use that- it's fun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That's an incredibly good idea Chaplain Lucifer. When I did it, it was a spur of the moment thing like "wouldn't it be cool if?" so we didn't bother with additional rules or consequences (I was actually allied with the Wolves player at the time!) but the Leadership idea is brilliant, and very fluffy I believe. I have an Apocalypse game coming up at the end of February where I will (hopefully) be allied with him again. I don't care if it leaves our team disadvantaged, I am definitely suggesting this! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsulis81 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 As I recall back in 2007, GW released a scenario for this but is long since gone from the website. I think I still have it archived. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milkman Of Baal Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Some fantastic ideas guys cheers! Garath that 2nd edition sounds like fun and I always like an excuse to breakout my 2nd edition rule book and codex imperials. I shall put forward what you guys have suggested, I'm allied with him so I don't know if he'll (haha heal, good boy!) go with a modifier. It's not for a couple of weeks yet but I'll def let you know what we did and the outcome of it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Oh man, I love the Lion and the Wolf. I have played versus 2 Chaos players often with a SW buddy of mine, and we always have a honour duel. We just select 1 HQ per side and start assault with models at base to base. It might not be the most balanced thing around, but hell it's fun. We do this before the actual game, and the loser is forced to call the winner Sir for the duration of the match, haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnerBeta Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Remove Wolf, Lion strong ! And on a more serious node, if can get your hands on the Crusade of Fire expansion, check out the chapter Arena of Death. It's a RPGesque 1 on 1 combat scenario that adds new, more complex rules for duelling and manoeuvres. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285955-the-lion-and-the-wolf/#findComment-3576687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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