Ada Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Do we know what happened to Ferrus's body after Istvaan V? I know his head was presented to Horus by the possessed Fulgrim but I don't recall any mention of his body. I'm just wondering as I have an admittedly "outhere" suspicion that Black Library may resurrect him at some point. Why? Well I find it odd that they took Eidolons character down the path of being beheaded, then stitched back together by Fabius Bile. It seems an unnecessary thing to do to his character in my opinion unless the writers are saying, hey Fabius can do this head swap thing. I know it's a bit of a daft theory but I can't help but think that Black Library would want to work on an interesting character such as Ferrus and that the original storyline kind of robs them of this opportunity so what better than creating a loophole like that early on, then having him pop up later as the Heresy unfolds? Anyhow, what do you think, feasible, mental? On reflection, the whereabouts of his body probably doesn't matter that much as they could use any suitable proxy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Primarchs are not astartes. They are as different as apples and apes. Ferrus Manus is dead. That is all. Fabius could reattach his head yes, but he wouldn't be what he was before. Just a giant reanimated corpse with shiny hands, not a primarch. Besides Emperors Children coming back to life is most likely got a lot to do with their patron god more so than science. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3578996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 That's right, they are as different as apples and oranges, they're also considerably more advanced than astartes. Still, thanks for your opinion. Perhaps you don't know enough about Bile and his determination to unlock the secrets of the Primarchs, what better opportunity than to have one sitting on a shelf. I didn't suggest he would be back leading the Iron Hands, just that he "could" pop up again in the story if Bile could achieve this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't believe we'll be seeing a living Ferrus again. Im not saying its beyond Bile's ability. Its established that he's studied Fulgrim in detail. I just don't think BL wants to jump the shark that badly. The Torgeddon mystery is close enough as it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 That's right, they are as different as apples and oranges, they're also considerably more advanced than astartes. Still, thanks for your opinion. Perhaps you don't know enough about Bile and his determination to unlock the secrets of the Primarchs, what better opportunity than to have one sitting on a shelf. I didn't suggest he would be back leading the Iron Hands, just that he "could" pop up again in the story if Bile could achieve this. So...basically you felt the need to talk down to my "knowing enough" while thanking me for my "opinion" and agreeing with everything I said. This topic has been around the block before and is not a new theory. And you need to let me worry about what I "know". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unintentional Batman Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I'm not sure if any official (GW/BL) source has referenced the whereabouts of Ferrus' body yet. But it wouldn't be too hard to do if they indeed decide to bring him back, it would be the most likely scenario to cook up some mumbo jumbo about the living metal parts of the body still holding on to the essence of his consciousness and Ferrus getting to return as some sort of techno(-organic) version of himself. There is a more or less believable way to bring back every dead primarch - even the "dead for sures" (and I'd reckon that's exactly as planned), except maybe Horus with his soul being vapourized and all. He would need a bit of an asspull, or clones. Wait a minute... /altough Kurze might refuse to return, out of spite, even if they tried to write it. He'd just tell the author to sod off Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Well there was something in the IA articles that speculated on the Iron Hands resurrecting Ferrus, but whenever asked, the Iron hands violently refused the occurrence as ever happening. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Angel Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. If I recall corectly it was in the audio short - Warmaster. About Ferrus returnig to life I highly doubt it, but he would hardly be first to be ressurected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. If I recall corectly it was in the audio short - Warmaster. About Ferrus returnig to life I highly doubt it, but he would hardly be first to be ressurected. In which case that would be pretty much cut and dried, I wasn't aware of this happening hence my original post. Cheers guys. Mods, close the thread? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. If I recall corectly it was in the audio short - Warmaster. About Ferrus returnig to life I highly doubt it, but he would hardly be first to be ressurected. In which case that would be pretty much cut and dried, I wasn't aware of this happening hence my original post. Cheers guys. Mods, close the thread? Hehehehe, you haven't read Know No Fear yet, have you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder 3 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 ...In Some really old Fluff, (Index Astartes Vol.4 if memory helps me), it was suggested as an unconfirmed report that Ferrus body was taken to Mars and in 41St Millennium is in Custody of the Ad. Mech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that.If I recall corectly it was in the audio short - Warmaster. About Ferrus returnig to life I highly doubt it, but he would hardly be first to be ressurected.In which case that would be pretty much cut and dried, I wasn't aware of this happening hence my original post. Cheers guys.Mods, close the thread?Hehehehe, you haven't read Know No Fear yet, have you? Nope? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Full on Bionic Head? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Full on Bionic Head? Ferrus Manus 2.0??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Full on Bionic Head? Ferrus Manus 2.0??? I preferred Chuck, but . . . If I just said Ferrus nobody would know what I am talking about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 In the grim darkness of the far future, nobody stays dead except Hastur Sejanus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 In the grim darkness of the far future, nobody stays dead except Hastur Sejanus. Haven't you heard? 'I was there,' he would say, right up until the day he died, after which he spoke only infrequently. 'I was there the day Horus saved the Emperor.' Emphasis mine. The 'he' being Hastur Sejanus, and the source bring the opening words of The Wolf of Ash and Fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. I thought it was written in some HH book that Ferrus' bleached skull was adorned on Horus' throne in Lupercal's court? I may be talking excrement here but I swear I read that somewhere, though I have no clue as to where. If that is the case then theres no coming back from that. If I recall corectly it was in the audio short - Warmaster. About Ferrus returnig to life I highly doubt it, but he would hardly be first to be ressurected.In which case that would be pretty much cut and dried, I wasn't aware of this happening hence my original post. Cheers guys.Mods, close the thread?Hehehehe, you haven't read Know No Fear yet, have you?Nope? Tarik Torgaddon is brought back as a daemon known as "Tarik He-Who-Is-Now-Tormageddon" using only his progenoid glands. And the same IA article which speculates(key word) that the headless body was taken to Mars, also mentions speculation that the Iron Hands kept it for themselves and attempted to resurrect him somehow. So who knows, maybe we'll see a half-dead Primarch-automaton waging war across the Horus Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We All know that the body is on Mars. We also know of the Proteus Protocol... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 In the grim darkness of the far future, nobody stays dead except Hastur Sejanus. Haven't you heard? 'I was there,' he would say, right up until the day he died, after which he spoke only infrequently. 'I was there the day Horus saved the Emperor.'Emphasis mine. The 'he' being Hastur Sejanus, and the source bring the opening words of The Wolf of Ash and Fire. I wonder if it's possible to hate a work of literature into nonexistence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 In the grim darkness of the far future, nobody stays dead except Hastur Sejanus. Haven't you heard? 'I was there,' he would say, right up until the day he died, after which he spoke only infrequently. 'I was there the day Horus saved the Emperor.'Emphasis mine. The 'he' being Hastur Sejanus, and the source bring the opening words of The Wolf of Ash and Fire.I wonder if it's possible to hate a work of literature into nonexistence.Considering how many "highly disliked" novels are still floating around, I'm guessing you need more hate than Darth Sidious, Darth Maul, Sauron and the Hordes of Mordor could muster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialIssue Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Holy crap the plot now sounds absolutely terrible. The inability of any main characters to stay dead makes the Heresy sound more like a bad fan fiction. It really needs an injection of grit, nihilism and mystery. Or (my preference) just be retconned out of existence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Oh come on, it was probably meant in humor as a reference to Erebus wearing his skin in the opening trilogy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Oh come on, it was probably meant in humor as a reference to Erebus wearing his skin in the opening trilogy. What is this "hew-mor" you speak off? Because I don't know about you, buddy, but I take the universe where my Space Satanic Knights Templar battle Space Romans, Space Prussians, Space Mongols, and Space Glampires pretty darn seriously! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286094-ferrus-mannus/#findComment-3579316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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