ZONKEY Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Hi Do rad grenades stack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 No, they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Can we get a little more of an explanation, Chaplain Lucifer? The exact words are "in a turn in which a unit equipped with rad grenades launches an assault or is themselves assaulted, the enemy unit(s) suffer a -1 penalty to their toughness until the end of the assault phase." So I would have to say, that by that wording, as long as separate units equipped with rad grenades are charging into the same enemy unit (or an enemy is multi-charging two rad grenade equipped units), that yes they would stack. But only for that one assault phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm away from my codex now but I believe the rule says "...unit hit by one or more rad grenades...", in which case two or three grenades have as much effect as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raztalin Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Cactus is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm away from my codex now but I believe the rule says "...unit hit by one or more rad grenades...", in which case two or three grenades have as much effect as one. Precisely that. Since the wording says the quoted above doesn't matter how many rad grenades you fire at the unit it won't stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I don't mean to cause controversy, but Cactus even mentions he isn't looking at his book right at that moment, while I have it open in front of me. As long as it doesn't cause problems to directly quote a portion of a rule, Betrayal reads: "during a turn in which a unit equipped with rad grenades launches an assault or is themselves assaulted, the enemy unit(s) suffer a -1 penalty to their toughness until the end of the assault phase. Note: this does effect the victims' instant death thresholds." The entire reason behind debating it in the first place, is that Betrayal does not contain the phrase "one or more" anywhere in the description for rad grenades or rad weapons in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 What is this Betrayal book? Because i'm seeing the DA book and DA rad grenades do not stack. There's no rad grenades in main rulebook and the only ones I know are in DA book. Rad grenades in other books amy function differently but rad grenades on DA Codex don't stak. Just like the DA storm shields were 4+ inv against shooting as all others were 3+ inv against everything before an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raztalin Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Well the DA:Codex states it exactly as Cactus has written it. This being the DA forum an all; we adhere to those rules normally :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cod Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 The Horus Heresy book 1: Betrayal. Think 30k not 40k, era of Legions, oh forgot we DA are always a Legion lol! The question bout rad grenades was in reference to 40k? or 30k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Well I think most of us assume you meant rad grenades from Codex:Dark Angels. These have the Stasis Anomaly rule which has been faq'd to read "any unit hit by one or more." Cactus is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raztalin Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 And the purpose of this "debate" is because the OP asked in the DA forum if Rad grenades stack ... he didn't post it in the HH section so we assume he means the ones from the DA book fired from the RW Grenade launcher or similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Nice updates - I was curious myself following my failure to find the quote from Cactus', but as we are in the DA specific forums, then I guess it's 40k ruling time, silly me Lesson learnt: Rad Grenades, whilst included in both 30k and 40k, are different in their rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 WH30K and WH40k are pretty much apples and oranges. Despite following 40K rulebook tehy have their own weapons and rules that in no way affect 40K rules unless noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You folks are completely correct. Sorry about the confusion. I suppose I've just been stuck in 30k mode for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro X Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I know that grey knights have rad grenades of some kind also and they are used at the start of close combat (before int 10 happens) but I still don't think they stack with DA rad grenades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I know that grey knights have rad grenades of some kind also and they are used at the start of close combat (before int 10 happens) but I still don't think they stack with DA rad grenades. I am told that they (and the inquisitorial rad grenades) do stack but have not read the rules actual wording for myself. I intend to... soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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