Kasper_Hawser Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 The spruces have arrived and boy do they look awesome even unassembled! Durfast once again I thank you. Currently reading the Citadel Painting guide as well as reading Adam's Space wolves blog on painting tips. Last question before I go, Do most of you guys use the citadel spray undercoat or do you just paint the primer on with brush? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3592463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Primer undercoats - spray, never brush painted for me. Location leads to what you can get to do it .. GW sprays obviously work, as do Army Painter, as do many others, including GW or Vallejo watered down and put into an airbrush. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3592684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Well, I find myself needing to buy more specific paints for my Grey Hunters. I was reading Adam's Space Wolves blog on http://space-wolves-grey.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-to-paint-space-wolves.html but he uses an astonishing amount of paint, at least 19 different pains not counting the chaos black spray can undercoat. What I have now from buying the Hobby Starter Set: 1) Mechrite Red 2) Calthan Brown 3) Iyanden Darksun 4) Knarloc Green 5) Tallarn Flesh 6) Mordian Blue 7) Undercoat Black 8) Skull White 9) Chainmail. Of these colours, I think I can use Mechrite Red and Black for the Grey Hunter Red and Black markings. Iyanden Yellow would be for the left shoulder pad with Great Company Markings. (not sure what I'll do but I'm leaning towards Bran Redmaw company) Rest of the colours I'm not sure if it would fit the Grey Hunter image. I imagine the silverish Chainmail or Calthan Brown could be used for the wolf fur stuff. I want to make a helmeted Grey Hunter first so probably won't use the Tallarn Flesh yet, but it looks suitable for normal unhelmeted Grey Hunters. After reading through the Citadel Painting Guide, I'm going to try limit myself to buying 5 additional colours to see what comes out. So my shopping list will be as follows: 1) Base Paint - The Fang bluish colour 2) Shades - Nuln Oil. Honestly I'm not sure the purpose of shading despite the description, but I'll follow the instruction anyway. 3) Drybrushing details - Longbeard Grey 4) Armour Layering - Runefang Steel 5) Glazing - Again I'm not sure on how this will effect but there's only 4 ranges stated by the book, yellow, green, blue and bloodletter red. Either I skip this or I get the Gulliman Blue as it seems to match the bluish grey of Grey Hunters. 6) Chaos Black Spray Can undercoat For now, I don't think I'll bother with the bases yet. Regarding the brush, the Citadel Starter Brush seems to be like a fine detail brush, so I think I'll need medium drybrush for that purpose, as well as the Large Brush for the rest of the basecoating and shading stuff. Your advice and input is greatly appreciated. Please note I'm following the textbook here but at the same time, would like your suggestion on the simplest color combination without buying a whole lot of paints. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3594383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I go for the old dark grey colour rather the 2nd edition swedish blue. So not sure I'm if much help to you here. On the flesh though, try gentle black and brown washes on a white undercoat. There are plenty there to practice on :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3595278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovertToaster Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 No, what you should do is go back to your first post but buy two DA armies from dark vengeance from ebay! That gives a fantastic and VERY CHEAP starter army for any play with solid wargear.......also.......welcome to the rock! Ignore those dogs as they pale in comparison to a true son of the lion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3595386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Welcome to the fang, and thanks for taking the time to post... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3595491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Lol toaster, much as I respect the sons of the Lion, at least the sons of Russ still have a sense of humour. One day though, I plan to have DA allies. Deathwing armies are awesome too but I prefer the weapon loadouts of the Wolf Guard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3596157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Try this one for the Horus Heresy era look: 1. Dawnstone 2. Paint all the basic colours, gold etc. 3. Glass Varnish 4. Mix of brown and black wash. 5. Light drybrush dawnstone and then astronomincon grey. 6. Matt varnish. 7. Drybrush metals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3596261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I read the Battle of the Fang to get me pumped up on building my wolf army, which is funny because I went a much different direction from where I once began... Anyways, welcome to the Fang. Drink hearty, fight hearty, and may you dream of large women!! I do not play power armored SW's (unless the are toting heavy weapons or riding huge wolves) and also have some random sprues lying about. If you find yourself in need of more hunters, PM me!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3596364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Hi everyone. Been awhile since I posted as I've been on holiday and such. Still, after some procrastination, I finally broke open my long unused toolbox which was supposedly for Gundam assembly in the past and finally used them to assemble my first Grey Hunter! Made the assembly last night, spray primed it in Chaos black in the morning then finally went to a local hobby shop to paint and get pointers from some experienced painters. Unfortunately, I have yet to figure how to post images on this forum as some of us have done. When I click on the "image" button on the forum post, it says URL straight away. Well I do not have a website, the images are stored in my computer. any ideas? Though I guess another option is to activate my long dormant facebook account and upload there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3600511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Welcome back then ! Go to Gallery and then click the red Upload button, that's the first place I'd start :) Not exactly a picture poster myself either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3600663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 And here it is! My first pack! Not quite finished yet and still need a lot of refinement as I didn't use a whole lot of colours apart from Fenrisian Grey, Brassy Bronze, Beasty Brown, Mechanicum Red and a few others, but in the end, Nuln Oil did its magic and made my Grey Hunters the embodiment of Fenrisian soldiers: Loud, proud, spoiling for a fight, prepared for any fight from traitors to daemons, and totally unhygienic. Actually have another two along the way, a plasma gunner and another normal Grey Hunter with chainsword and bolter. Will post it soon. again,my thanks to all for your encouragement, especially Durfast who saved me a buttload of money on the this pack alone. Of course I'll have to get another 10 soon, some Wolf Guard and hopefully, a finecast of the Rune Priest. For my birthday a few days ago, I bought meself Arjac and Thunderwolf Cav for a bit of challenge and change after painting Grey Hunters for almost one month straight. constructive criticism is greatly appreciated. Currently my colours are limited to the following: Fenrisian Grey Runefang Steel Chainmail The Fang grey Iyanden yellow, Mechanite Red, Brassy Brown Beasty Brown, Black undercoat Calthan Brown, Tallarn Flesh Skull White. Nuln Oil Agrax Earthshade Any other suggestions on better colouring is greatly appreciated. thankfully Grey Hunters are suppose to be dirty so nuln oil really does a magicaly job of not only highlighting the details but giving them the dirty look as well on top of their grey. And yes, I know my banner sucks, appreciate tips on that as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3630011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Personally I use photobucket because it allows me to easily edit the size and brightness of the picture. With the picture being so small it's hard to criticise accurately but it looks fairly clean and definitely table top ready. Would love to see some bigger pics so we could see the detail ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3630073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Been playing around my list fu and came up with the following: List 1: Grey Hunter Spam Rune Priest (LL and JWW)= 130 Terminator armour Choose of the Slain Grey Hunters 10 Hunters Plasma Gun Plasma Gun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen Sub Total = 185 10 Hunters Plasma Gun Plasma Gun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen Sub Total = 185 Total = 500 Pros: Maximize troops, with lots of Plasma and firepower to kill everything at range. Rune Priest will stick with one of the two and add his firepower to them, with Jaws being the monster killer should they encounter one. Cons: Footslogging, Plasma Guns means less power in CC, either charging or counter attack. but I think the real con is just being slow. And of course, no anti tank. Still, this is what I'm building up for a 500 points army so far. I really want something that can take on a Riptide, daemon or even other terminators or a Chapter Master with artificer armour. List 2: Minimum Grey Hunter with heavy support Rune Priest (Divination) = 110 Choose of the slain Grey Hunters 5 Hunters Wolf Standard Melta Gun Razorback Sub Total = 135 Grey Hunter Grey Hunters 5 Hunters Wolf Standard Plasma Gun Razorback Sub Total = 140 Long Fangs 5 Long Fangs(inc leader) Missile Launcher X 4 Subtotal = 115 Total = 500 Pros: More mobile with Razorback. Heavy Bolters on Razorback should be enough to kill most things at 500 points, with the Grey Hunters mopping things up should they choose to disembark transport. Also this time, have at least 4 missile launchers to take care of the big stuff. Cons: Minimum of troops, if opponent brings heavy weapons as well, razorback might not be able to protect Grey Hunters for long in objective game. Also long fangs could be vulnerable to outflanking, but hey, that's what counter attack is for. Also Rune Priest will stay back with them to provide a bit extra punch from assault and bring divination goodness to the fangs which should kill any monstrous creatures that could be possible filled in small game. List 3: Crazy Wolves! Rune Priest = 100 Grey Hunters 5 Hunters Plasma Gun Sub Total = 85 Grey Hunters 5 Hunters Plasma Gun Sub Total = 85 3 Thunderwolves Stormshield X 2 Wolf Claw Sub Total = 230 Total = 500 Pros: LOL, this one I just made for fun since I did buy a box of thunderwolves. But damn, I see why most people don't take them, freaking expensive! Space Marine bikers are less than half of their naked cost. Looking at this, I suddenly don't see much merit in this list beyond the fun factor. Best taken if fighting somebody who has no idea what a Thunderwolf does I guess. Either the Wolves will tank the shots at them, or the Grey Hunters will suffer while the wolves run up the board. either way, something will get hurt and I get to laugh if either makes it to their objective, either the map objective or the Wolves finally reaching their target. Cons = Mostly said in the pros, but seriously, if they focus on the grey Hunters and not the Wolves, the wolves might prove a nasty surprise to even their best souped up HQ or horde troop. 3 X 4 = minimum of 12 attacks at least, enough to potentially kill a whole squad of marines or break a horde, especially since I armed one with wolf claw and the rest with storm shields, so 2 are still getting their rending attacks. My understanding is that rending only works if using normal CCW, and not specialist weapons. Suddenly I'm liking list no.3 more. Thoughts guys? I think List no 1 is more sensible, 2 slightly less so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3632830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I just sent you a PM Hawser!! I like list #3 the best, but only because it's my style (casual) of army. You might want to consider transports for the GH packs. You could fit a razorback in for both packs along with 3 bare bones TWC and the RP. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3632960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I think that starting off getting a feel for the wolves will best come from the second list, and its also a nice base to start off your collection with, but all three are fun and playable. and let me tell you TWC in low point cost games are Brutal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3633413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbyKroket Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I played 500 pts against grey knights and my thunderwolves were awesome my list: Rune priest 100 2x 5 grey hunters 105 each mark of the wulfen wolf standard melta 2 twc 190 2 storm shield + thunderhammer 500 Vs 2x5 pa marines with psylencer rifleman dreadnought Guy with 2 headed eagle Twc ran up to the dreadnought and wrecked it and then they killed the eagle guy and his squad Thunderwolfs with storm shields always have a 3+ save an can be realy devastating in small games -rps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3652182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Glad to hear you took it to them brother. Always love hearing about success with TWC, I feel like on this thread they are the most underused and unsupported unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3653172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbyKroket Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I must however confess that I made alk but 1 3+ whilst my opponent couldent make one to save his live Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3653320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjdudey Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I must however confess that I made alk but 1 3+ whilst my opponent couldent make one to save his live On this note, my love for Storm Shields was wellfounded this weekend gone. 2500 pts vs Tau, Victory for the wolves - Not crushing but a win is a win. My Wolf Guard with storm shields just wouldn't die, even against many ap2 close combat attacks, they kept making the 3+ invuln save!!! Gotta love thwe wolf Guard !!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286376-to-start-or-not-to-start-warhammer-40k-now/page/2/#findComment-3653437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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