Aralon56 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Not much is known about the captain of the khan bodyguard do you think it is possible he could be ranked as one of the best fighters in the legions? up there with Sigismund or Sevatar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Possibly. IIRC what little there was in Scars, he was with the Khan back before the Imperium came to Chogoris. So we at least know he is old. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3586970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aralon56 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 One of the reason i ask this is because the Khan seem to have no worries about him when he was fighting against Mortarion bodyguards and he seems to have speed while wearing terminator armor or did the white scars mod them aswell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3586997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 he seems to have speed while wearing terminator armor or did the white scars mod them aswell. I wouldn't be surprised, quite honestly. I'd imagine (unless it says otherwise in Scars) that the V Legion would use Tartaros-pattern Terminators due to their speed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eye Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm also interested by the answers. And I don't want to steal this thread, but if someone has details about the said bodyguard (they're termies, but anything about armament, etc.) and headhunters, I would be very grateful ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aralon56 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm also interested by the answers. And I don't want to steal this thread, but if someone has details about the said bodyguard (they're termies, but anything about armament, etc.) and headhunters, I would be very grateful ! No its fine ask the questions i'm just starting to get into the Whitescars and there fluff so any additional info is welcome . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Angel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Not much is known about the captain of the khan bodyguard do you think it is possible he could be ranked as one of the best fighters in the legions? up there with Sigismund or Sevatar. While it is not explictly said in the books I think he can. Blood Angels have Raldoron, Dark Angels have Corswain, Sons of Horus have Abaddon, so it is kind of logical to assume that other legions would not be worse. Sure it may never be said but what are odds that for example Raven Guard would not have anyone skilled enough to go toe to toe with Sigismund or even someone able to best him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarSpirit Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 U bet every legion has at least one top fighter able to go head to head with the other legion's best. Ravenguard have sharowkyn who goes toe to toe with lucius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aralon56 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 U bet every legion has at least one top fighter able to go head to head with the other legion's best. Ravenguard have sharowkyn who goes toe to toe with lucius I agree completely with what your saying but if you had to rank each fighter would you say Qin Xa would be in the top 5? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarSpirit Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Bottom 3 in all the legions :). Just kidding, didn't read scars so can't tell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aralon56 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Bottom 3 in all the legions . Just kidding, didn't read scars so can't tell. It's ok you could be right little is known about this guy i just wanted to see what other people thought :d. You should give scars ago i thought it was a a good read. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well, he is in charge of the Khan's Bodyguards, moves remarkably fast in Terminator armor, and can keep up with the Deathshroud, who are warriors handpicked by Mortarion himself. I'd be inclined to say that he is definitely in the top 5 of his Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The thing I want to know most about Qin Xa is how to pronounce his name... The first part seems simple enough, but the latter? Is it "zaa", "shaa", or something in between? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I wouldn't bother ranking them, myself. There is always going to be added context unique to any comparison. That, and Qin Xa is the head of his bodyguard. That doesn't always mean something. It doesn't for the Imperial Fists, Raven Guard or World Eaters. The latter two are dismissive of their guard force. The former has a First Captain that overshadows the rest of the Legion. As for Raldoran of the Blood Angels, the proper comparison would be Azkaellon instead. Raldoran is second in command. Azkaellon is the head of the guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Sword fighter /= fighter right? For example. I imagine if Abbadon fought Lucius he wouldn't fuss around with swords. He'd probably use his ribcage to lodge Lucius sword in and then proceed to pummel him into beef stew. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3587917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aralon56 Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 I wouldn't bother ranking them, myself. There is always going to be added context unique to any comparison. That, and Qin Xa is the head of his bodyguard. That doesn't always mean something. It doesn't for the Imperial Fists, Raven Guard or World Eaters. The latter two are dismissive of their guard force. The former has a First Captain that overshadows the rest of the Legion. As for Raldoran of the Blood Angels, the proper comparison would be Azkaellon instead. Raldoran is second in command. Azkaellon is the head of the guard. Yeah i think you are right it would be hard to rank each one plus it would cause a mass fallout over which champion is the best :D. I'm just really interested in this guy if any one could point me in the direction of some info i would really appreciate it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitas Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 1. abbadon 2.sigismund 3.lucius 4.loken 5.azkaellon dont hate just my honest opinion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corai Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pretty sure the crimson fist unequivocally says that in any other age, Sigismund would be the greatest warrior in the universe and that it is only because he is overshadowed by the primaries that this is not so now So I think that makes mr Templar top of the pile, champion wise (at least before chaos gets involved and starts buffing people) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitas Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pretty sure the crimson fist unequivocally says that in any other age, Sigismund would be the greatest warrior in the universe and that it is only because he is overshadowed by the primaries that this is not so now So I think that makes me Templar top of the pile, champion wise (at least before chaos gets involved and starts buffing people) im only goin off the heresy novels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corai Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pretty sure the crimson fist unequivocally says that in any other age, Sigismund would be the greatest warrior in the universe and that it is only because he is overshadowed by the primaries that this is not so now So I think that makes me Templar top of the pile, champion wise (at least before chaos gets involved and starts buffing people) im only goin off the heresy novels Crimson Fist is the heresy novella about the battle of phall. Collected in Shadows of Treachery I think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I like how as soon as someone points out you can't rank them because of context etc, the next poster ranks them Also, Loken in 4th place but no Sevatar?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitas Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 loken only cause he bested lucius tht first spar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raulmichile Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You forget about Khârn. If there is a list, he should be first or second at the very least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 There shouldn't be any list, it's pointless. There are too many factors, and even then most of them are too equal for us to say "Yep, they'd win every time". In one of the Space Marine battles novels a Marine is chasing a human through a tunnel, there's a rockslide, the Marine is trapped under the rocks and the human comes back and executes him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitas Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 i was just giving my opinion. shouldnt have done a list but i did and i stand by it as MY opinion not anyone elses Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286476-qin-xa/#findComment-3588112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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